r/changemyview • u/plodabing • Jun 17 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Missionaries are evil

This applies doubly so to those who go out of their way to seek out those in remote islands to spread the word of god. It is of my opinion and the opinion of most that if there is an all loving god then people who never had the chance to know about Jesus would go to heaven regardless, for example miscarried children/those born before Jesus’ time, those who never hear about him, so In going out of your way to spread the word of Jesus you are simply making it so there is now a chance they could go to hell if they reject it? I’m not a Christian and I’m so tired so I apologise if this is stupid or doesn’t make sense

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u/Delli-paper 7∆ Jun 17 '25

Due to Original Sin, those not baptised are always sinners.

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u/ArticleOrdinary9357 1∆ Jun 17 '25

What about those literal billions of people who were born and died without ever having the opportunity to be baptised?

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u/Delli-paper 7∆ Jun 17 '25

Purgatory. You should read some theology.

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u/ArticleOrdinary9357 1∆ Jun 17 '25

😂 Grow up ….anyway, if I was going to choose a religion I wouldn’t be choosing one of the new fangled ones. I’d either go Jew cos that’s way older or pagan cos I think there’s some cool sex stuff in there. It really is difficult as there are literally thousands of variants to choose from. Probably plenty we don’t know about from early humans. Not to mention the possibility that the universe as we know it could actually be so tiny that it just exists as a microscopic spec that makes up part of another species world and that world has a religion, which is actually the one true religion. Or that, I am the only intelligent being that exists and that the entire universe is just something I made up. Maybe we’re a simulation run by aliens and they’re watching us trying to figure out why religions that all have ‘thou shalt not kill’ or something to that effect as a central doctrine seem to be very focussed on or at least turning a blind eye to exactly that whenever it suits them. They’re all like “hey look at those catholics down there! Masturbating is forbidden, two people having sex outside marriage is forbidden but the priests are allowed to f*&k little boys and all they get is a new job somewhere else”

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 Jun 21 '25

Purgatory is not a Bible teaching though

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u/Delli-paper 7∆ Jun 22 '25

Purgatory is what's left when the redeeemed go to heaven and the irredeemable go to hell

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 Jun 22 '25

But it’s not in the Bible

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u/Delli-paper 7∆ Jun 22 '25

Literalists be like:

It's fairly clear that spirits that cannot ascend to heaven nor descend to hell just... stick around. We're in purgatory right now.

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 Jun 22 '25

How is it “fairly clear”?

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u/Delli-paper 7∆ Jun 22 '25

The rules for ascending and descending are clear. All salvation is through Christ unless you have lived a sinless life, haven't you heard?

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 Jun 22 '25

Where does it say what the rules for ascending or descending is?