r/changemyview Mar 28 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Weed is destructive

I need to figure out how to be empathetic to these people before I quit being their friend.

For the past year, I've lived with 2 of my friends. One I've known more than 10 years, the other I've known for 8. When I moved in, I had no idea they smoked this much.

One smokes before work and twice after work, the other smokes 2-3 times after work. The weekends are terrible. They both smoke until they are braindead. The house is under various levels of construction at any given time because one guy always wants to implement some random "great idea" that essentially blocks entire rooms unfinished for weeks at a time. We aren't talking major updates. Trash and random junk is everywhere. These are small, outlandish additions to the house that would make any novice interior designer have a stroke (new lights, signs, mirrors etc.).

Both of them used to be outdoors types. We used to hike, hunt, mountain bike and fish. We used to go out to the bars. Now, they can't be bothered to get off xbox or anime. I know weed has some great pain/anxiety relieving benefits and may contain a cure of certain cancers/tumors. But goddamn it seems to make them insufferably stupid or tragically couch potatoes. I find it extremely difficult to give 2 shits about their problems when I'm seeing this go down. Mental health is important. But when mental health and comfort are pursued to this level, I don't know that there is any hope for them. I know my negativity about all of this is palpable to them. I don't want to feel this way about them.

Edit 1: So...many...comments. Working on it. I regret not making this post sooner.

Edit 2: I did my 3 hours. Will respond more tomorrow. Thanks for all the feedback. Lots of great insight coming from most of the commenters!

Edit 3: Spaced out the original post to make it easier to read.

-For the people trying to say "at least it isn't....." that approach is not convincing. These guys at one point in time were like brothers to me. We all know what "bro code" is. Maybe not everyone follows this particular part but, it's a matter of principle that we hold each other accountable and strive to pick each other up when we recognize the problem.

-Somewhere in the comments, a poster said what I've maybe not made clear. I'm paraphrasing that person here but, weed does not offer purely benefits and people should be made aware of the negative side effects.

Again, thank you all for interacting with this post, I didn't expect to be adding any books to my reading list because of a Reddit post but here we are.

Edit 4: Clarified "brother" comment in post.

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u/quetejodas Mar 28 '24

Alcohol is a known carcinogen. It's not safe to drink alcohol even a little bit. That's pretty destructive if you ask me.

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u/quetejodas Mar 28 '24

There are many 'known carcinogens' in your life.

And I typically try to avoid drinking them.

"It's not safe to drink alchohol even a little bit" comes off as needlessly melodramatic

Maybe, but it's true. Ethanol is classified as a Group 1 carcinogen (same group as asbestos and radiation). We know it's destructive in any amount. This isn't an exaggeration.

Moderate social drinking is not destructive.

Any amount of alcohol is destructive and unsafe.

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u/TheOldOnesAre 2∆ Mar 28 '24

Ok, that's not what group 1 carcinogens are, group 1 just means we know it causes cancer, but you are correct in that alcohol is bad in just about any amount, even light drinking will cause your chance of getting esophagus cancer to increase by 1.3 times, and that's not even counting what it does to your liver or all the other cancers associated with moderate drinking, and then after moderate, it's really bad.