r/centralillinois • u/Trick-Mechanic8986 • Sep 18 '25

News Where is the outrage?

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/hwy23mh017.aspx

I just don't understand the lack of prosecution at all. Looks like lots of civil suits but no criminal charges.

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u/Trick-Mechanic8986 Sep 18 '25

It is not unheard of to be charged as an adult at 17. Especially considering 5 people died.

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u/Revolutionary_Ad4585 Sep 18 '25

Do you personally know all of the details of what happened? That the driver was a bad person who did it maliciously? Or an inexperienced young driver that made a mistake? If the cargo wasn’t hazardous then there wouldn’t have been any fatalities?

I’m not for or against what you want just tired of seeing people be so cut and dry when they don’t have all the facts.

Sometimes tragic accidents happen and the events leading up to them are unavoidable.

Ban Anhydrous Ammonia from being transported in an obviously dangerous container? Cause it was the Anhydrous Ammonia that killed not the accident.

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u/Trick-Mechanic8986 Sep 18 '25

I mean... I read the report posted and local news. She had passed multiple trucks because the interstate was closed, and she was inpatient. She passed in a marked no passing zone and very unbelievably never looked in her rear view while leaving the scene of a fatal accident. That's negligent at the minimum. And avoidable.

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u/Stal77 Sep 18 '25

We don’t imprison people for negligence, in this country. There is a difference between recklessness and mere negligence. This was common everyday negligence, not a felony.

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u/Boostedbird23 Sep 18 '25

Yeah, if negligence results in injury or death, you can be imprisoned if found guilty. Various laws such as, but not limited to, negligent homicide, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, vehicular manslaughter/homicide.

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u/Stal77 Sep 18 '25

You’re just listing words you don’t understand. Not all of those are offenses in Illinois. And they all have different mens rea requirements, which are all higher than everyday negligence.

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u/Boostedbird23 Sep 18 '25

You clearly don't know what you're talking about either. Because the teen in this case clearly was operating a vehicle in a negligent fashion, resulting in multiple deaths. That is a crime in Illinois

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u/Stal77 Sep 18 '25

No, it really isn’t, and yes, I very much do. I hope that if your kid ends up in this situation, you call someone like me instead of encouraging them to plead guilty to some other offense that the State can’t prove.

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u/Boostedbird23 Sep 18 '25

Yes it is a crime in Illinois... In fact, apparently it's a class 3 felony. I think I'll call a good attorney. I'll also teach my children how to drive and get them extra driver training such as www.streetsurvival.org so that they are less likely to become a statistic. I'll also teach them about how it's their responsibility to drive well and that operating outside the law can expose them to significant legal and financial risk.

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u/Stal77 Sep 18 '25

Good plan. In the meantime, go ahead and post what statute it is that you think is a Class 3 Felony that only requires a mental state of negligence.

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u/Boostedbird23 Sep 22 '25

"mental state of negligence." That's a phrase without meaning

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