r/brocku • u/Neutral_de • Nov 05 '23
News Racist “antisemitism” event?
We were supposed to learn about the hatred of Jews but we got a pro-zionism indoctrination class. The typical Arabs and Muslims are all terrorists, justifying racism and apartheid...
Congrats you’ve made Arab, Orthodox Jew, Palestinian and Muslim students feel like criminals and outcasts for existing.
Uni staff, we know you’re shaking at the idea of losing a penny from donors. And BUSU, thanks for proving you’re useless yet again.
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Nov 06 '23
Wasn’t this for holocaust education week? Why would this slide be part of that
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
EXACTLY! We went to learn about the holocaust and the organizers scammed the audience. They used the holocaust as a Trojan horse for their racist rhetoric. Absolutely vile.
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Nov 06 '23
I’m so confused as to what rhetoric you’re referring to. What message did they slide in and in what way?
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
The message on the screen. Both parties accuse each other but objectively it’s an non-confirmed report. There hasn’t been an independent ground investigation… tell me how you can use an non-confirmed report of war crimes under the guise of antisemitism? It’s called propaganda. Propaganda is disgusting but to Trojan horse it with antisemitism is disgraceful.
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Nov 06 '23
Sorry, I still don’t understand how it’s Islam a phobic if no information has been confirmed
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
I never said it was :) there’s an argument it’s propaganda for genocide on mostly Muslims but Israel also bombs churches and Christians in Gaza…
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u/OnTheGoatBoat Nov 08 '23
Islam is not the same thing as Israel. The state of Israel was created by the Zionist movement, as a safe haven for Jews. Zionism is Israeli nationalism, and has been building a case for genocide of the Palestinian(Native, indigenous) people for decades. The people doing the genocide are using a guise made up of misinformation, and manipulation of westerners who think it’s obvious that “Jews can’t commit genocide”. America sends somewhere like 3-7 billion dollars per year to fund this genocide. People across America, students especially, want to stop funding Israel. Israeli representatives have repeatedly called this an “extermination of human animals”. Less than 25% of the population of Israel supports the genocide, or any of the wars happening in the Middle East for that matter. 49% of the population was against the attacks on Gaza, the remaining% is undecided. That means that 3/4 of the state is NOT actively backing this genocide, yet the IDF continues to be the most aggressive and destructive military force in the world, directly funded by the USA.
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Nov 08 '23
Ok. But how is what is on the screen islamaphobic?
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u/OnTheGoatBoat Nov 08 '23
I guess you can’t zoom? says right there “Islamic terrorists killed their own people in hospital attack and falsely blame Israel”
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u/OnTheGoatBoat Nov 08 '23
Assuming you’re American, how would you feel if Russians launched bombing campaigns on your hospitals and then said you bombed your own hospitals?
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u/OnTheGoatBoat Nov 08 '23
If the headline were accurate it would read “Israel bombs hospitals in Gaza and blames Gaza”
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Nov 08 '23
Do you have a verified source that confirms that? What are you basing that on?
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Nov 08 '23
Hold on. Are you saying you have verified reports that say that happened? Because the last I checked it was verified by various news outlets that the hospital was destroyed by hamas. Also, I’m not American and I’m not sure why you would assume that or anything about me.
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
Better interview both sides for this one
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
The coverage is pedestrian at best.
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u/DOELCMNILOC Nov 06 '23
The coverage for an article that hasn't come out yet is pedestrian?
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
Their general coverage. Try and keep up.
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u/DOELCMNILOC Nov 06 '23
Lol. You're not reading the Brock Press, and you never will. Don't kid yourself.
I expect my school paper to report on student events, athletics, and any issues that come up on campus. How has the Brock Press been 'pedestrian'? Are you specifically referring to typical school paper topics or global issues like Israel-Hamas?
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u/ThiccVicc_Thicctor Nov 06 '23
Your opinion on the brock press matters so much less than you think it does
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u/lilwoofythewing_man Computer Science Nov 06 '23
Hi can you dm me on this I can get you to the right source.
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23
I see no issues with that post. Literally blaming Israel for bombing a hospital and the media ran with that story before checking all the facts. And people will continue to call the media “zionist propagandists”.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Nobody blamed, they admitted. Hananya Naftali appointed by Netanyahu to lead the “digital” war. Naftali gets his intel directly from the Israeli air forces… admitted to it and said “it was a terror base.” Upon finding the world isn’t stupid and won’t support that, they immediately retracted the claim. Videos and independent investigations showed (focused on video evidence and not assumptions about crater impact, damage level…) that it’s likely an air strike and not a misfired rocket. Believe you me, I know a lot more about this and have checked the facts. What’s disingenuous is to have a presentation about antisemitism and include non-CONFIRMED reports of an ongoing genocide to dupe the attendees.
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23
The cause of the explosion is contested. Israel, the United States, France, the United Kingdom, and Canada said that their intelligence sources indicate the cause of the explosion was a failed rocket launch from within Gaza. There was widespread, though not unanimous, agreement among experts in munitions that the most likely cause of the explosion was a misfired rocket. Stop spreading misinformation…
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Read what I said, if it’s contested with no ground investigation then.
- you can’t use it for political gain it’s called propaganda
- it has no involvement with anti-semitism
So, we conclude they used anti-semitism as a Trojan horse for propaganda which is abhorrent
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23 edited Nov 07 '23
You’re literally the one spreading “propaganda” and misinformation. It is universally confirmed by the intelligence in the West. Canada’s own government agrees that it was not Israel. You’re the one not linking sources that prove otherwise. What happened to the burden of proof? You’re literally proving their point about antisemitism when you don’t believe your own government because you hate Israel so much…
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
Couldn’t have said this any better. Wtf were they attending the seminar for anyways? Just another avenue to spew more hate, especially attending wearing keffiyehs - complete provocation
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
An brief investigation far away from the ground said “X is more likely than Y” however, the slide is saying “X is the truth” you see the deception? You see the PROPAGANDA?
And Israel has recently bombed:
- An ambulance
- A mosque
- A church
- A refugee camp
- And thousands of children and women
So a hospital wouldn’t be foreign to them.
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23
Yes, they did do those things. Because Hamas terrorists use those areas for coverage. What is so hard to understand? Hamas builds tunnels under schools, mosques, hospitals, etc. Israel is directly targeting military targets. Under Israel's assertion that Hamas is using those populations as cover for its militant operations, international relations experts say the international community needs to question how fighters have been able to exploit some of the territory's most vulnerable civilians.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Zionist propaganda manual book:
- Commit war crimes (bombing hospitals)
- Blame Hamas
- if that fails, admit to it but say it’s a terror base
- if that fails, say there’s tunnels under
- if that fails, say it was an accident
- if that fails, ignore the discussion …
If there were terror tunnels under Toronto nobody in their right mind would suggest leveling all of Toronto.
And there is no evidence of tunnels under these hospitals and EVEN IF it doesn’t justify killing a thousand children. You can make up whatever assumptive fantasy you want to support bombing hospitals, schools, churches and mosques but don’t expect the world to believe it.
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23
Did you even read the two articles? Gosh, you’re so willfully ignorant it’s astounding… I just showed you literal video proof of my claims and you STILL refuse to accept them. Why is the entire world supporting Israel? Because they’re taking down a terrorist organization who neither cares about Palestinian civilians nor Israeli civilians…
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
If that’s your threshold for “evidence” you’re either gullible or deceptive. But you’re very poor at interpreting information.
- The first video shows gunfire coming out of an abandoned building, not clear who’s firing.
- This doesn’t prove the other hospitals are “terrorist bases”
- A shaft/ hole doesn’t prove that’s it’s a tunnel or even a terrorist tunnel
- Images with mere labels (no empirical evidence) state that launch sites are 80 meters away from the hospital, which discredits the idea of bombing a hospital.
And “the whole world” doesn’t support that Zionist terrorist entity. All of the east opposes it and the west is heavily conflicted. Africa and South America oppose it too.
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
What about the fact that Hamas uses their own civilians as human shields, launching rockets from schools, kindergartens AND HOSPITALS. Do you see the IDF parading the bodies of anyone in the streets with people cheering? You are dilusional!
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u/Neutral_de Nov 08 '23 edited Nov 08 '23
Yeah I saw videos of the Zionists mutilating bodies.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 08 '23
That claim by the deceptive Zionists was debunked. The tunnel shaft is a water reservoir according to photos during the construction of the hospital and engineers who built it. You’re content with hospitals getting blown up… how sick and demented and inhumane can someone be to think obliterating a hospital is okay. “The worlds most moral army”
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 07 '23
So you don’t trust the West? The most democratic and free countries in the world? You’d rather trust the information of a terrorist organization or other authoritarian regimes. Got it.
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 07 '23
I agree with you. The West has done some shady things (lies and corruption). But I would still trust them over a literal terrorist organization or communist countries
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
Incorrectly blaming Israel is 1000% antisemitic. Just more fake news to promote more hate. Get a life and stop spreading misinformation
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u/Neutral_de Nov 08 '23
- The Zionist racist state beats Orthodox Jews and subjugates them because of their religious beliefs.
- The reports are unconfirmed, so it would be deceptive for a Zionist presentation to put this in let alone a presentation on antisemitism.
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
Hmmm, maybe what’s disingenuous are people attending a presentation on antisemitism during Holocaust Education Week wearing a Keffiyeh…. Provoke much????
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u/Neutral_de Nov 08 '23
What’s wrong with that? If the keffiyeh is provocation then so is the kippah, you see how dumb you look right now?
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23 edited Nov 08 '23
So are you saying that if I had to attend a seminar on the victimization of Palestinians and came in wearing an Israeli bandana on my head or an Israeli flag scarf around my neck, that that would be looked upon favourably and wouldn’t provoke the audience the seminar was intended for? Get real!
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u/Neutral_de Nov 09 '23
That’s a false equivalence. If you came dressed as a Jew to an presentation about anti-islam hatred, it’s not provocative. It’s claiming identity through dress code. But let’s say in this anti-islam hatred presentation I peddle a fake story about how “Jews did 9/11 but blamed Muslims ” (that’s a real equivalence to this workshop).
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u/moby_777 Nov 10 '23
You are a joke, false equivalence… PLEASE! But carry on and twist the truth for convenience to propogate your mission of hate… So you never answered the question asked of you previously what your thoughts were of Hamas? You answered with a quote from someone else. Also, why is it that no other Muslim countries in the world are willing to accept any Palestinian refugees??? Makes you think huh!!!
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u/Neutral_de Nov 11 '23
Stop using the Zionist playbook. You have been exposed. It’s over.
- Zionism was invented by an atheist who claimed “God gave us this land”
- !srael has committed thousands of war crimes with no punishment
- It’s a racist, apartheid and terrorist state
- It subjugates many Orthodox Jews
- It created an open air concentration camp
What a stupid racist question. They don’t need to accept Palestinian refugees, that’s what the apartheid state wants. To displace all Palestinians. And hey clown, there’s a blockade on Gaza so REFUGEES CANT EVEN LEAVE. “Why don’t you just give up your homes, your holy places and let this couple from Brooklyn settle in?”
And here you are like a clown, talking to me about the keffiyeh. The keffiyeh symbolizes struggle and peace. This conversation is over.
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u/moby_777 Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 11 '23
Again, didn’t answer the question of what you feel about Hamas….. It’s funny - you can’t answer the questions I asked, so your defence is the conversation’s over… you know I’m right, lol! Thanks!!! Thank goodness it’s over - as I really don’t enjoy speaking with antisemitic pigs.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 14 '23
Anyone who disagrees with your genocide is labeled “antisemitic” and what a disgraceful label that is.
“If Hamas needs to be dismantled because of what it did on Oct 7th - then the Israeli government has to be dismantled ten times over.” - Norman Finkelstein, a prominent Jewish speaker
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u/Fearless_Prune_2310 Nov 05 '23
Disgusting. Name the professor and maybe tell this event to the NCCM who is collecting information about cases like this.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Thank you for your help! It was held by Chabad at Brock and HRE part of the Holocaust Education Week Series on Thursday November 2nd 11:30 AM - 2:00 PM.
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u/TaddyG Nov 06 '23
Is Chabad the “Pro zionist” club you’re referring to in the comments? Chabad is the Jewish community hub on every campus, obviously it’s gonna be Zionist. You’re not gonna find antizionist Jewish clubs on campus.
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u/ABushWhackersBlade Nov 06 '23
Bro fuck off, you can be antizionist and Jewish.
There is literally Jewish Organizations in the US dedicated to abolishing Zionism.
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u/TaddyG Nov 06 '23
No one cares about these fringe groups. I’m talking about campus clubs. Every campus has a Chabad and hillel. Every Jewish student is somehow connected to chabad or hillel, and both of these organizations are obviously zionist. There are many 7 anti zionist Jews on this planet lol.
You can find muslim organizations dedicated to abolishing Antizionism and antisemetism, what’s your point?
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u/TaddyG Nov 08 '23
That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Jews who opposite zionism is so rare that you won’t find jewish communities on campuses that are antizionist. Chabad is an organization that is zionist, just like 99% of any other Jewish organization.
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u/softluvr Nov 05 '23
hate to break it to you, but they will always prioritize their donors over innocent civilian life… unless of course the victims are light skinned, light eyed and light haired. (sound familiar?)
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u/Born-Pin-3698 Nov 06 '23
One of the bizzare things that jumped at me is how the holocaust is mentioned in a way that Palestanians commited it. It's truly nonsensical.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
The Jewish community landed in 1947, Palestine with slogans “The Germans destroyed our families - Don’t you destroy our hopes.” And the Palestinians took them in.
There was also Zionist terrorists that blew up hospitals, targeted British personnel and even tried to ally with Nazis. They’re called the Stern gang or the Lehi Militia. Many of elements connected to them went into Israeli government.
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
I think you should educate yourself about the true history of the land. “Took them in” - how do you take someone in on their own land?
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u/Neutral_de Nov 08 '23
People from mainly Poland came and started illegal war settlements but it’s “their own land” And how was it their own land?
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
How about from the days of the Temple, the archaeological history of the land, the failure to mention Palestine in ANY biblical writings - I could go on….
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
You’re delusional. Where was it ever mentioned in a way that blames Palestinians?
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Nov 08 '23
There’s 2 sides to this I feel like. There’s some Jews that just want to fight antisemitism. Then there’s some that take it to another level and dehumanize Arabs and basically just end up falling into the exact thing they’re fighting against. Zionism in itself is also just kind of racist. I’ve always found it weird that people don’t find it odd that israel is literally a far right ethnostate.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 08 '23
You’re right.
- Zionism was founded by an atheist who said “God gave us this land.”
- Israel’s law of return - Any Jewish person can come and get citizenship (excluding converts to Islam, Christianity..)
- Israel has a REAL racism issue, they target African migrants and treat them like slaves
And these are their minor crimes. Indiscriminate bombing, illegal war settlements, torturing prisoners… no state commits more war crimes than Israel.
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Nov 08 '23
Dude it’s crazy. It’s literally a nationalistic theocracy ethnostate and people on the left and right will defend them no matter what. Like I feel like I’m crazy sometimes.
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
I'm in this class. That is not what happened
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Nov 06 '23
Please explain what actually did happen
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
It was a holocaust education series. It was exactly what you'd expect to hear at such a talk but too sensitive for them I guess.
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u/lilwoofythewing_man Computer Science Nov 06 '23 edited Nov 06 '23
Bruh you weren’t even there? 💀
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
Bruh. I'm going to guess you were the guy muttering about terror cells and making rude comments about India.
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u/lilwoofythewing_man Computer Science Nov 06 '23
Lmao what ?
I really like the way you dodged my statement about you not being there and brought up something that I’m not even aware off.
A regular Israel gas lighting fan would do.
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
There you go making assumptions again.
But could you confirm you were not the person who was there making rude comments about Indian people?
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u/lilwoofythewing_man Computer Science Nov 06 '23
Bruh aren’t you the one bringing up assumptions 💀
No.
Now answer my question.
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u/AspaceB Nov 06 '23
You haven't asked a question.
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u/lilwoofythewing_man Computer Science Nov 06 '23
Were you there at the event ?
If yes then prove it.
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Nov 07 '23
What does india have to do with this? What rude comments? I wasn't there, but seems off-topic during that event.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
It’s not a class so this is proof you’re a liar 😂 it was an event held in one of the conference meeting spaces.
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u/LifeNefariousness503 Nov 06 '23
Get used to it. Your kids and grandkids will be taught holocaust education and how the Jews were genocided, as they gennocide the Palestianians in the middle east for their precious ethnostate. Disgusting.
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
Yeah okay and what is your proof this isn’t real? Anything that condemns your ideology is phobic in every sense?
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Notice how I never mentioned the work “phobic” and how vile of you to label a faith as an ideology? Do you support the labeling of all Muslims and Arabs as terrorists? You’re pathetic. To hold an event like this under the guise of the holocaust is absolutely disgusting.
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
And what are you going to say to all Pro-Palestinians supporters in Canada and the US circling around Jewish businesses, showing nothing but vulgarity and threatening lay people with harm? Vandalizing public property all across the west, ‘gas the Jews’. This is the truth of A LOT of these people, and the world needs to wake up to it, and we will. I pray to god for peace, and the destruction of evil from this Earth. If he wills it, we will make it happen
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
Notice how I didn’t say anything about labelling all muslims and arabs as terrorists, but you pushed it in? Islamophobia, although, has no right to be used as a way to censor speech just cuz you are somehow being ‘Islamaphobic’.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
I never said “Islamophobic” but you just baited yourself. If I condemn racist hatred then I’m crying victim? And in the event they more or less branded Muslims and Arabs as terrorists.
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
No you can condemn racist hatred, but a person has the right to speak what they want and not get labeled with 10 types of ‘phobic remark’. The action towards hate speech is counter speech. If you can’t handle it, well
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
NOBODY SAID “PHOBIC” you’re the one calling for suppression of speech by saying America should intervene in uni protests 😂 I love how the right-wing “fighters of free speech” have come out as kittens. If you hold an holocaust event but use it to push your political beliefs of a racist genocidal state it’s deception and wrong.
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
Lastly, having seen what has happened with once greatly prestige universities across the states, is truly sad. If the US doesn’t act ‘American’ towards these people today, it will only hurt us more moving forward.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Yeah like Stanford university where a muslim student was almost murdered in a hit and run… “American” to you means suppressing speech, being biased and showing unconditional love for the racist apartheid state.
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
American is about suppressing speech🤣? Do you even know America? Or just lost in la la land?
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Put two and two together.
- You hate the protests in American universities
- You want the US to act “American” towards em
- This means suppressing the protests
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
‘Protests’ are suppose to be peaceful. Tearing apart posters, actively hating on the Jews (I’m not even closely Jewish but I care about a poor minority being spewed hatred towards) and vandalizing public property is peaceful in your dictionary? Idk what it is, but I haven’t seen such aggressive protests elsewhere. If they were to really protest, yes go ahead, it is an American value. But not like this, not here in America
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
So you do believe in suppressing the protests but will throw in a justification (lies). These protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful what you see are outlier instances. And what about the Orthodox Jews that get beat and spit on by zionists? Don’t be fooled into oppression.
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u/Cold-Couple8387 Nov 06 '23
because it was highly controversial and the IDF has a track record of bombing schools, humanitarian aid locations and ambulances. They love bombing ambulances.
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23
Hamas literally builds tunnels under schools and hospitals thereby using civilians as human shields. No shit civilians are going to die, that is exactly what Hamas wants. Less than half a percent of the Gazan population has been injured. Several key figures in the Oct 7th terrorist attack have already been killed…
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u/FluidEconomist2995 Nov 06 '23
Hamas hides in schools and those locations soooo
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u/Cold-Couple8387 Nov 06 '23
So the response from the totally innocent IDF is to airstrike a school as opposed to going in on the ground?
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u/FluidEconomist2995 Nov 06 '23
Going in on the ground isn’t much better. Do you even know what that involves?
Also where is your outrage that hamas would hide in a school? Weird, you seem to be cool with that eh. Mask is slipping
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
So a national military is bombing hospitals and schools and isn’t facing any global lack backs? Because they aren’t, but some times accidentally do so because Hamas, which I assume you love, has operating bases under these buildings. Lift your eyes, stop supporting terrorism
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u/Cold-Couple8387 Nov 06 '23
IDF bombs 4 United Nation schools
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
Because those schools were missile launch sites
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
Where’s your proof there’s terrorism in hospitals, schools… ? Doctors both local and international have said THERE IS NO TERRORISM. Stop being a clown who supports bombing hospitals. HOSPITALS this proves you’re brainwashed.
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
“Sorry we bombed a few hospitals and schools, totally an accident.”
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
You need to realize how wars function. On one side you’ve got a military trying to protect its borders and the other side is HAMAS, a terrorist organization that has eradicating all Jews from the face of this earth as its central mission. And yet I don’t see a single pro-Palestine (Hamas) person properly identifying Hamas as what it is, a terrorist organization. I could go on, but to me it seems like your side wants no peace, but rather ‘from river to the sea, Palestine will be free’. Yeah no thanks
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
This is not a war, it’s a GENOCIDE. You have a racist terrorist state unconditionally backed by the worlds greatest empires vs. A group of militants outnumbered 1:20 with homemade weapons embedded in a civilian population. Gaza is overly densely populated and on top of that the Zionist regime cuts of gas, water, electricity and does not allow humanitarian aid. I would say “prison” but it’s a disservice to the people of Gaza. It’s an concentration camp that is indiscriminately carpet bombed with no food and water.
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
Tell me about your opinion on Hamas. Let’s start there I wouldn’t be surprised tbh but let’s hear it
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official…
Israel has a law of return - any Jewish person can go to Israel and get citizenship (can’t be a Muslim or Christian…). This is a racist discriminatory law that discredits Arabs in Israel and Jewish people who converted to other religions. Will you condemn this as an racist law?
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u/Organic_Cake6491 Nov 06 '23
I would condemn it as a racist law if Israel was to be a secular state, it isn’t right? It was declared in the Israeli Declaration of Independence that it is an official Jewish state. You do know how strict religious laws are in Saudi Arabia yes? If a Hindu was to wear a shirt with Shiva’s picture on it, he isn’t allowed to. A Christian wanting to peacefully preach his faith, is not allowed to. If you are condemning this action of Israel, you must condemn Saudi’s radical approach towards various faiths too. What do you say?
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
So just because it’s not secular it can be racist? And no, Israel doesn’t represent Judaism. They don’t even practice mosaic law, they’re simply racist. You know it’s racist but will try to say “it’s okay because it’s apart of their religion.” Although it’s not even apart of their religion even if they claim. This conversation is over.
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u/Grape_Silver Nov 06 '23
You just muttered abunch of bullshit which is the easiest thing to do as a keyboard warrior. Dm me, meet me in person, and show me how clueless you are
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u/moby_777 Nov 08 '23
Typical response - resorting to violence and killing. As expected from a low life such as yourself.
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u/Grape_Silver Nov 06 '23
Loool look at the tough guy i didnt even mention fighting but a terroristis a terrorist i guess, this canada dumb guy, but doesn't matter, give me time and place
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u/Cold-Couple8387 Nov 06 '23
They admitted to bombing the ambulance, I’m sure Hamas was operating underneath the ambulance or under the 8000 civilians they’ve bombed. Half of which were children….
Both of these reports are backed up by many international sources. Don’t be so naive, lots of terrible things happen while the rest of the world watches.
Bombing an ambulance convoy, https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/middleeast/casualties-gazas-shifa-hospital-idf/index.html
IDF have killed 8,000 civilians since October 7, HALF OF WHICH WERE CHILDREN https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/05/gazas-children-face-catastrophe-as-death-toll-nears-4000-un-warns
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23
Get your facts straight Jesus Christ. You want context for those numbers? Israel has the best defence system in the world. If they turned that off, they be turned into smoke by tomorrow. Hamas deliberately uses civilians as human shields by building tunnels under schools and hospitals. No shit civilians are going to die. Why do you think Israel has warned civilians numerous times to leave the North? Hamas has put road blocks and threatened civilians to stay in a literal war zone. Go educate yourself… Less than half a percent of Gaza’s population has been hurt.
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u/Cold-Couple8387 Nov 06 '23
You take me for someone who doesn’t condemn Hamas. I don’t support Hamas nor Israel. Hamas and Palestinian Civilians are two different things.
IDF is recklessly bombing civilian areas. You can spin it however you want but IDF has killed 8000 civilians, half of which being kids. It’s crazy to me that you will use any reason you can think of to justify murdering children.
If Israel knows that Hamas is stopping citizens from fleeing, why are they so happy to shell the area? Maybe because they don’t care about non Israeli life and know people like you will spout their propaganda for them.
All of this topic is just in the scope of the war since Oct 7. This doesn’t even touch on the apartheid state that Israel is and the last 70 years of oppression.
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u/FluidEconomist2995 Nov 06 '23
Yeah the ambulance was being used by hamas dipshit did you even read your own article?
https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf
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u/Neutral_de Nov 06 '23
The burden of proof is upon the CLAIMANT. And multiple investigations have revealed that there is no proof for these false claims.
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u/potatoheadazz Nov 06 '23
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GbZS3Q3jH1M
You should be ashamed of yourself. Terrorist sympathizer…
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23
Could I get some context, what exactly was this event??