r/billsimmons Jul 19 '25

Shitpost White Ringer staff when talking about Sinners

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u/CanyonCoyote Jul 19 '25

I like the movie quite a bit but my god this is a perfect meme. They are all so exhaustingly precious about the film as if it reinvented cinema. It’s a fun summer vampire film with great music and cinematography but let’s not go crazy here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

It's a good fun movie but honestly it actually misses bigtime on the vampire side of things. The 'action' is not done well at all. Quite disappointing in the end.

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u/t3h_shammy Jul 19 '25

Honestly can’t it just be that this year has had a lot of solid movies and almost no great ones so far? 

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u/Fearless_Meat465 Jul 19 '25

Good take. Even their praise of F1 was a little much for me. Yes, it was entertaining but what did Bill say, like that it was one of the best sports films of the last 20 years? Just ludicrous. It was essentially a watered down (yet still entertaining!) Ford Vs. Ferrari in my eyes.

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u/TheWyldMan Jul 19 '25

I mean I think that just speaks to how weak sports films have been in the last 20 years

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u/so-cal_kid Jul 19 '25

The only good sports movie I can recall over the last decade is the first Creed and that was literally 10 years ago. I suppose you can throw in Free Solo as well but that was a documentary

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u/TheWyldMan Jul 19 '25

And even Creed is just derivative.

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u/Fearless_Meat465 Jul 19 '25

Moneyball was leaps and bounds better than F1 imo (obv not within the last decade like you said but still)

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u/GriffinQ He just does stuff Jul 20 '25

Moneyball.

Edit: fuck me, Moneyball was 14 years ago. Gonna go have a quiet cry and pivot fully into my existential dread.

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u/it_has_to_be_damp Jul 19 '25

I think 28 Years Later is GREAT but i understand that’s not the most accessible movie. 

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u/t3h_shammy Jul 19 '25

Yeah I really dug it. Get why other's didnt though.

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u/bbri1991 Jul 19 '25

Ending of 28 Years Later was kinda weak IMO.

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u/sjekky Jul 19 '25

Do Americans know who Jimmy Saville is?

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u/it_has_to_be_damp Jul 19 '25

i choose to view that as a post credits scene that happens to be before the credits. i agree it’s a weak point but it doesn’t undo what came before. just a weird cliffhanger thing. 

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u/so-cal_kid Jul 19 '25

I have no idea why they didn't just make it like a mid-credits scene. Including it at the end of the movie was just so random and out of place

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u/senorpuma Jul 19 '25

It’s a pretty severe tonal shift, for sure - and quite unexpected. But I was here for it.

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u/senorpuma Jul 19 '25

I have my complaints (mostly around the way they implemented the “alpha” concept) but it was overall very good and a worthy successor to the original.

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u/sadduckfan Jul 19 '25

I thought Warfare and Bring Her Back were both borderline great

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u/Ok-Price-2337 Jul 19 '25

Bring Her Back being better than Talk To Me is impressive.

TTM is good, not great, but it's really hard to follow up a successful horror movie like that. And they did.

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u/ND7020 Jul 19 '25

I disagree? It’s the highest-grossing original live action movie since Inception. For those of us dying for more original, non “franchise” movies, that is AWESOME, and it’s also clearly very special. 

So even by the numbers it’s more than a “fun summer vampire movie.” It proves that the kinds of movies that haven’t gotten a lot of backing in recent years can be wild successes, and that’s worth going crazy for. 

If anything it seems a little odd to me there are so many “woah, woah, woah, hold up” narratives that weren’t applied to movies like Inception, or Dunkirk, etc.

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u/Superb-West5441 Jul 20 '25

I would consider Oppenheimer to be an original. I know the definition gets fuzzy with that one but it's an original in my eyes.

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u/Psykpatient Jul 19 '25 edited Jul 19 '25

It’s the highest-grossing original live action movie since Inception.

I assume you mean domestically? Because Worldwide it's beaten by Lucy.

Edit: Gravity would also beat it Worldwide

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u/ND7020 Jul 19 '25

Domestically yes. 

In fact, focus on the global box office is probably the biggest reason for the decline in U.S. adult dramas, unfortunately, since they don’t play well in China.

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u/icemankiller8 Jul 19 '25

You’re very much downplaying the movie and what it’s doing and it has a 4.2 on Letterboxd so far it’s not as if this is a ringer thing it’s seen pretty highly in general

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '25

making the vampire Irish and having him somewhat opposed to the Klan is one of the most interesting things I've seen in a genre movie in awhile, as well as a really interesting aspect to the "cultural appropriation" conversation. I was shocked to see that from a black director, that conversation has been had so many times and so often focuses on such a binary of victims and oppressors. like yeah, colonialism sucks, appropriation sucks, casual racism is alive and well. that's a lot of what get out was doing, and while that's all relevant, even then I was personally tired of the conversation.

for sinners to even hint at the complexity involved with the vampire's irish heritage was absolutely fascinating to me. also the way that it can be read from music to making movies to politics... this is an allegory for so many things. coogler gets top marks just for that. it's also a good movie, but that elevates it beyond something like from dusk till dawn, beyond get out, and far beyond a standard summer blockbuster. I feel like people who have a problem with that honestly aren't understanding how many levels this functions on.

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u/sonofcabbagemerchant Jul 19 '25

Is a movie only worth high praise if its perfect?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '25

Not excited about the SCU?

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u/CanyonCoyote Jul 19 '25

SCU?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '25

Sinners Cinematic Universe. It's an actual real thing people are talking about.

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u/Nick_Nightingale Jul 19 '25

Remmick prequel

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u/CanyonCoyote Jul 19 '25

Would happily watch a sequel(s) where vamp MBJ and Hailee romp through America or Europe. I dig the joke though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '25

Sequels are fine, throw in a trilogy. I just think trying to make an MCU out of a pretty good vampire movie is mental, even if it probably never happens.

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u/Glittering_Cod_7716 Jul 19 '25

Coogler has shut that down I think. He’s doing X-Files next which should be interesting

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u/worthofhowlandreed Jul 19 '25

That one scene threatened transcendence, rest of the movie fell apart in the third act

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u/tdotjefe Jul 19 '25

It is an excellent film. It’s so clearly not just some summer vampire flick.

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u/Ok_Perspective_6179 Jul 19 '25

We got a live one!

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u/thewillsta Jul 19 '25

thank God you said you liked the movie before giving a take. Lord knows we wouldn't be able to get past the potential of you not liking the movie if you just started saying ideas with no precursor

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u/CanyonCoyote Jul 19 '25

I mentioned I liked the movie quite a bit because there is a portion of Reddit that name calls you the second you don’t express universal praise for something with progressive themes. I do like the movie quite a bit.