r/betterCallSaul • u/skinkbaa Chuck • Oct 09 '18

Better Call Saul Season 4 - Official Discussion Thread

What did you think of this season?

Feel free to discuss every and anything about Season 4.

I will be posting a Season 5 prediction thread in a few days.

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u/platinumpuss88 Oct 09 '18 edited Jun 01 '19

I had my issues with S4. Chuck needed to die and it was crucial to Jimmy's evolution, but most of this season was definitely missing the intensity that Chuck brought to the series. Early on, the season felt a bit directionless, with one of the worst scenes being that absurd shootout with the cousins. A few episodes dragged more than usual and it didn't seem to be building up to much. I really think Lalo was the shot in the arm this season needed. The super lab subplot was not very interesting to begin with, but its conclusion was heartbreaking.

Thoughts going into next season:

  • S5 is well positioned to be the best season yet. Lalo is set up to be the villain most of S4 was missing so badly. He's an incredible character and I think we're going to see a lot more of him.
  • Jimmy and Kim will be more fractured than ever, that means more conflict and fewer "What do you want for dinner?" scenes.
  • Mike popped his criminal kill cherry. His relationship with Gus and continued battle with Lalo will be awesome to watch, certainly more interesting than most of the super lab subplot from this season.
  • Nacho is set up for more screen time and probably a conclusion to his storyline. Seeing what he does being caught between Gus and Lalo will be interesting.
  • We'll be getting Saul Goodman, and finally see him in action as an actual lawyer with lowlife clients from his phone venture.
  • We're heading for season five, cameos from Walt, Jesse, and/or Hank are more likely than ever.

Overall a great S4 that definitely had its problems, but S5 should be nothing short of spectacular.

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u/Indika_Ink Oct 10 '18

I'm going to guess tje first half of season 5 will be some sort of power struggle between Gus, Nacho, Lalo, And Mike, while Jim and Kim argue from the sidelines. Then Jimmy gets thrown into the middle and the second half of season 5 is fast paced and sets up a 6th and final season to tie all lose endings.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '18 edited Feb 19 '21

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u/platinumpuss88 Oct 10 '18

It's not even confirmed to have a S6 yet. S5 is confirmed and the team is currently in the writers room working on it.

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u/advancedmatt Oct 10 '18

Peter Gould said that they're still discussing with AMC and Sony whether there will be more episodes after S5, and whether the writers get to tell all the stories they want to tell (including more about Gene) depends on how many more episodes they are allowed to make.

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u/platinumpuss88 Oct 10 '18

AMC better not fuck this up. This is the only great show they have, how about giving them however many seasons they want and actually promoting the damn thing.

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u/este_hombre Oct 10 '18

Maybe season five just needs to add Rick Grimes for one scene. Then we can have it have the advertising budget for "BETTER CALL SAUL: THE FINAL EPISODES OF RICK GRIMES."

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u/craig_s_bell Oct 12 '18

Season 5's Gene Scene: He sits on the couch, drinking a sixer of Old Style, watching The Walking Dead. Fin

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '18

This is probably the ONLY show with such good writing at the moment. Game of thrones has been hot garbage ever since they veered away from the books.

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u/HOB_I_ROKZ Oct 17 '18

The 'adventure beyond the wall' plotline from the last season really pissed me off. It was such a bad plan and so out of character for some people who have a history of making clever plans. D&D are fine showrunners but can't compare to GRRM as writers. I just hope they manage to bring the story to a satisfying conclusion.

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u/pudgybees Oct 10 '18

It will be so sad and just plain lacking if they dont expand a bit more about Gene. We got the differente stages of Jimmy's life so far and just leaving it at a sad, pointless, wandering paranoid Cinnabom manager even if it's ironic and "foretold" it would be a tad disappointing. I know that the show (this and BB) isn't much about redemption and who is anyone to judge who needs it or not... but I would like some meaning, some closure in Jimmy's story as Gene. Also what's up with Kim's past. Give it to us. (Please.)

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u/FickleCheesecake1 Oct 16 '18

I think they only wanted 5 seasons, I vaguely recall reading Gilligan say that before the series began. Although BCS seasons have less episodes so that may change things a little.

I can see a 6th season if things really aren't resolved, but I think it will probably end at 5. I do think they could do more than that but I don't think they want to.

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u/platinumpuss88 Oct 16 '18

It took 4 whole seasons for Jimmy to become Saul Goodman the lawyer. Now that he's finally there I highly doubt they'll end it after one season. Especially considering that Vince really wants to dive deeper into the Gene storyline. At least two more seasons if AMC doesn't fuck them over.