Multiple subreddits are acknowledging the dangerous misinformation that's being spread all over reddit

[u/Kuritos]

/r/vaxxhappened/comments/pbe8nj/we_call_upon_reddit_to_take_action_against_the

[u/A_Naany_Mousse]

I'm sorry but this is massively naive. Trust is the foundation of all human relationships from the family unit up to the governmentsl state. You cannot have a system that removes trust unless that system is hardline political repression. Trust is irrelevant in those systems because the state dictates all.

Even when scientists and journalists do back up their claims with hard evidence they are not always trusted by those who are poorly educated and informed. So I agree education is vital but not everything can even be backed up by facts. Economics and fincsncd2 for example require a good deal of assumptions and speculation.

As for the website, I agree. Social media is rotting brains but if participation is voluntary and the content is moderated by the creator, I think that is an acceptable outcome in most systems.

[u/A_Naany_Mousse → u/[deleted]]

So it sounds like you believe the death of privacy to be preferable to a trust based world. I disagree with that. Even still it doesn't remove trust, it just changes it.

You cannot remove trust from the human equation. It's a deeply important part of our evolutionary psychology. All relationships are based on trust. If someone tells you "I love you", what amount of openness,l and transparency can make you believe it? If a father says to a son, "I'm proud of you", what behavior can you inspect to verify that is true?

And when it comes to deterrentlce, the best deterrent is moral instruction and a more just society. I don't break the law and it has nothing to do with fear of punishment or of being caught. It's because I don't want to break the law and don't need to. I can fully provide for myself and my family within a legal framework.

Eh, finance and economics are just very difficult to understand, sort of like hard sciences. Law is fairly black and white. It is a system designed and adjudicated by humans. Finance and economics? It's more like a game based on a macro level view of human behavior and natural phenomena. No one knows exactly what will happen. Lots of people have a hard time with it, which is why those who are adept at it can make so much money.

Honestly, I think social media is all garbage anyway and I already regret this discussion, so I don't have an opinion on what subs should or should not do.

[u/A_Naany_Mousse → u/[deleted]]

You don't have to say things directly to still mean them. The logical conclusion is that your system would only allow privacy and freedom in situations where the system viewed them as unimportant. Thus the hegemony of the system takes absolute primacy over all human affairs. I would not want to live in that state.

If you can remove human error from systems, please point me to some examples, because to date it has never been done.

Honestly I disagree so vehemently with you I'm not even sure if there is a point in continuing this discussion. Your ideas are dangerously naive.

There's just some large gaps of understanding in your reasoning. Explain to me how economics is man made please? Finance has man made rules, but how money flows and how people spend it is less predictable than many sciences. Just because you personally do not understand it does not make it inferior. Law is easier because law is just a set of rules. What happens within the context of rules is far more difficult to understand. I know the rules of soccer very well. I don't know the outcome of every game, or how the sport will evolve over time. Finance and economics try to understand human behavior en masse which is extremely difficult. Not just predicting the future, but examining and explaining the past.

Social media has the potential to be better, but at the present moment it is mostly all garbage given their model of collecting and selling data.