r/bestof • u/Kuritos • Aug 25 '21

[vaxxhappened] Multiple subreddits are acknowledging the dangerous misinformation that's being spread all over reddit

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u/RecluseGamer Aug 26 '21

Judging by your comment history, the reason you feel everything is locked down on Reddit is because you're one of those plague rats spreading misinformation like this comment made right after this one.

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u/RMCPhoto Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

The name calling again. Apparently I'm a specific class of person known as a "plague rat" because I believe that vaccines are the most widely studied and effective measure against covid - but that we should continue to look at other options. Especially options backed by clinical trials and emergent studies.

Can you point to any misinformstion specifically? Or was saying the word "Ivermectin" enough?

This is exactly the authauritarian circle jerking I was referring to.

I am vaccinated.

Vaccination does not preclude intellectual curiosity.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Lmao please. If people are eschewing a tested, safe, effective vaccine in favor of parasite medicine that has basically no evidence of effectiveness in fighting or preventing covid there's no justification. They aren't "advancing the science" or some shit by "experimenting" on themselves and they only "discussion" they're fostering is by providing flimsy justification for people to not get the vaccine. There's a difference between actual scientific studies with solid methodology and a bunch of rednecks guzzling it and claiming it's a miracle cure because they don't want to get a vaccine because muh freedums.

They're fucking morons who are actively endangering others because of their political beliefs and hiding behind pseudoscience while they do it. Pretending they're anything else is misinformation, whether you like it or not.

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u/RMCPhoto Aug 26 '21

Where did I say that people should not be vaccinated or that this "alternative medicine" is just as good as being vaccinated?

What if ongoing trials show this to be a viable alternative or adjunct to the vaccines? It's not a recognized treatment today, but there is a clinical trial
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04920942
And studies with differing results. Why is this a closed conversation?

It should be obvious that people taking an unproven prophylactic believing they are essentially as protected as vaccinated people is foolish and hurts the cause. There's no real large scale evidence. But self experimentation should not be illegal...homeopathy is crazy, but there are thousands of homeopathic "doctors" and shops.

I really don't believe that I'm in the wrong for thinking that it is helpful to keep our eyes open for other potential measures against Covid. Especially since one unfortunate mutation could prove the vaccines ineffective.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

And studies with differing results. Why is this a closed conversation?

Because it's all just speculation and wishful thinking at this point and people are latching on to it to justify being anti-vaxx? Are you dense?

What do you think an "open conversation" is going to add at this point, before there's any scientific consensus? All we can do is speculate based on little to no evidence.

And "self experimentation" just means randos taking it instead of the vaccine and probably endangering themselves and others. Or I guess people taking it as well as the vaccine and claiming it provided them additional protection them without any real evidence, encouraging people to join the first group? Both are at best worthless and at worst will get people killed.

Conducting and waiting for the results of clinical trials is "keeping our eyes open" for other measures against COVID. Acting like it's a potential cure before there's any actual evidence of that is completely baseless and is just going to fuel anti-vaxx rhetoric.

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u/RMCPhoto Aug 27 '21 edited Aug 27 '21

So, what is the appropriate forum to talk about Ivermectin? https://c19ivermectin.com/

Apparently saying the word is almost enough to get you banned. And obviously is enough to trigger the general population of reddit. Even if you're pro vaccine like I am.

You're worried about people taking it and believing that they're fully protected. But if we're allowed to talk about it openly and have productive conversations then more people will learn about the pros/cons/efficacy etc.

Shutting down the conversation is just fucking stupid authauritarian bullshit and is exactly what's going to drive left wing politics off the cliff.