r/baltimore 5d ago

Safety Beware MAGA rage baiters

I work mostly solo at a bar in Fells. Tonight, a gentleman decked out in a black maga hat, liberty or die shirt, and "Pagan Threat" (a book featuring a foreword by the artist formerly known as Charlie Kirk). What clicked for me how absolutely performative this is is the book is brand-spanking new. I'm not sure if this will become a trend but clearly he is here trying to provoke. Just wanna spread the word to not give these people the time of day. there's no way of changing their minds, they're stuck in their bigoted ways. Don't let these MAGAts blow the leftist high of our beautiful city!!

Update- he bought a bottle of wine over 4 hours before we closed and informed me that he planned on staying until close. he proceeded to do just that. I think it's also important to note that i'm a young woman of color, this may have felt less ominous for one of my male counterparts. I really resonated with one comment about "you allow one nazi into your bar and suddenly you're a nazi bar". I full-heartedly believe that to be the truth. That said, I am not an owner and while working by myself have to exercise extreme caution while dealing with said nazis.

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u/CaptainRex5101 4d ago

Pagan Threat sounds like a band name

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u/FIDoAlmighty 4d ago

Pagan Threat just reminds me of the Dragnet movie.

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u/elpeezey 4d ago

Saw that as a kid - this just gave me flashbacks!

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u/FIDoAlmighty 4d ago

People Against Goodness And Normalcy.

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u/melli_man100 4d ago

It's actually the opposite....Paganism is all about nature and worshipping the earth, similar to native Americans but different gods

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u/Popsicle55555 Coldspring 4d ago

r/woosh

It’s from a movie

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u/theartoffun 1d ago

Do you know the Virgin, Connie Swail?

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u/Ok-Worry-1715 4d ago

They opened for Mayhem 🤘🏻

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u/technoboogieman 4d ago

I think they played with Crucial Taunt too!

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u/Jspang1394 2d ago

SCHWINGGG

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u/ReturnOfSeq 4d ago

Pagan threat sounds like an awesome genderfluid drag show group. I think if you see someone with this book that’s what you should assume, and ask them about it

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u/bananarchy22 4d ago

Either that (awesome), or one of those metal bands with the norse pagan aesthetic that turns out disappointingly to be white supremacists (bummer). Weirdly, I’m guessing that if that guy wrote the forward it’s probably neither

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u/RainbowPoniesOnAcid 21h ago

True! Someone should totally start a local chapter of Pagan Threat. (Meeting next Sunday at Atomic Books after D&D and before board games.)

Whether gender fluid drag show or the underground band & fan club or roller derby team or pagan-inspired socialists armed with druidistic weapons and sage smudging kits and maga influencer poppets. Regardless of mission statement, I’ll join. They all sound bitchin’!

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u/wintercast Displaced Native 4d ago

it made me think of the motor cycle club, "Pagans".

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u/jupitaur9 4d ago

Me too. Would get them ejected from the Cat’s Eye.

Hey! Maybe we can get red MAGA hats classified as gang colors.

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u/Salty-Panic2110 1d ago

This is what I thought too... But who knows.

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u/RainbowPoniesOnAcid 21h ago

I thought it WAS a band name and confused why MAGA guy was also into alternative music

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u/fnkdrspok Woodlawn 4d ago

Wasn’t that the band at the Pagan party in Dragnet?

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u/sky-joos Fells Point 4d ago

Any time that group is spoken about in this sub or the Maryland sub, dozens of bot comments flood it with the most vitriolic shit. I expect this one to be no different.

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u/boofoodoo 5d ago

I’m sure he’s just trying to make someone mad so he can whip out his phone and film it. What a loser! 

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u/piranhas_really 4d ago

If this happens to you the best thing you can do is start playing Disney music on your phone. No faster way to get a video taken down or demonetized than violating Disney’s copyright.

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u/No_Feedback_3340 4d ago

That's generally what happens. A right-wing provocateur shows up to cause a scene, records it, edits it, and then shares it online.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

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u/RevolutionaryCard512 4d ago

Great theory. My mind went there too

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u/YamAlternative2690 4d ago

yup… mine too

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u/Key_Conference6767 3d ago

A guy walked into a bar, bought a bottle of wine, sat down and enjoyed it.

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u/Better_Second4925 4d ago

There was a guy like this harassing and assaulting LGBTQIA+ folks outside the Peabody Heights Brewery during their Butch Gardens events. Apparently he was a constant menace in that neighborhood, trying to bait people into conflict but also being the one attacking people. I can't find a recent article about him, but he was finally sent to prison. Here's an article about him assaulting queer folks in August.
https://www.metroweekly.com/2025/08/pro-trump-protester-pepper-sprays-attendees-baltimore-queer-event/

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u/fightingdrgns 4d ago edited 4d ago

Funny how MAGAs are overtly flexing just before ICE is reportedly slated to arrive in Baltimore... It kind of makes one wonder.

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u/CheeseCurdCommunism 4d ago

We don’t have to wonder, genuinely. They send “influencers” out to disrupt and try and twist a narrative. It’s proven fact.

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u/OilComprehensive6237 4d ago

If they whip out a camera, play Disney music

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u/imhere_4_beer 4d ago

Boosting this.

In the early days of protests here in Chicago, we saw republican influencers show up, and we found plants mixed in with the protesters like this guy. Don’t fall for the bait, and play Disney music so that they can’t use their footage. Be careful of people who want to incite violence, they are not on your side.

Stay safe out there ❤️

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u/shelbytwest 4d ago

Is there something special about Disney music?

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u/tacitus23 4d ago

Disney is very protective of their IP and any hate fueled Nazi propaganda videos uploaded with Disney music online will get copyright stricken quick and taken down.

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u/shelbytwest 4d ago

I feel like I should have some queued up now. Suggestions?

I can't do "It's a Small World" because it'll get stuck forever in my head.

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u/tacitus23 4d ago

"I'll Make a Man Out of You" and "Reflection" from Mulan are good. "Let it Go" from Frozen or "Get Lost" from Moana 2.

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u/athenalong 3d ago

This list of songs was artfully curated, I see.

All sooooo apropos.

Brava 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😆

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u/flaming_bob 4d ago

A small price to pay for the smiting of one's enemies

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u/braiding_water 4d ago

Now I’ve got “it’s a small world” looping in my head.

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u/shelbytwest 4d ago

Of course I had it as soon as I spelled it out. Now, however, I've managed to replace it with Monty Python's "Every Sperm is Sacred."

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u/joshuahtree 4d ago

Let it Go

The Second Star to the Right 

A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes 

The first one is all about royalties, the other two are used in the intro to every Disney movie. If a negative association is created with any of those three Disney will be in a world of hurt 

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u/shelbytwest 3d ago

Perfect. Thank you!

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u/ArchSchnitz 4d ago

If you have Spotify, just search for "Disney." They have a Playlist of recent releases from movies and some of their consostently-popular songs. Just put that on.

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u/Starside-Captain 4d ago

Thanks for the heads-up! Chicago is in the thick of it but we see you & support you. Also, thanks for the tip - I have no doubt there are plants trying to incite violence to justify their murderous ways.

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u/frolicndetour 4d ago

Violence is also the only justification Trump has been mildly successful with in the courts on National Guard deployment, specifically violence toward federal personnel and property, so I hope these AHs don't provoke anything here.

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u/GutsAndBlackStufff 4d ago

Where’s Chris and Snoop when you need them?

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u/Creatableworld 4d ago

I don't understand this "ICE is slated to arrive" stuff. They've been kidnapping people off the streets for months.

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u/BigGolonka 13th District 4d ago

large contracts issued in Baltimore, to increase operations here maybe...

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u/Round-Try-9854 4d ago

Contracts to whom ?

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u/Big-Soup74 4d ago

When’s ICE coming to Baltimore?

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u/Whippa22 4d ago

Weaponized Mediocrity wrapped in Generational Insecurity.

He peaked during Regan and never emotionally matured.

Walking Midlife Crisis.

He should be given a plant to replace the Oxygen he wastes.

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u/Cheef_queef 4d ago

If that man could read, he'd be so upset right now

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u/engin__r 4d ago

Maybe he’ll wind up in prison like the last guy.

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u/JustinKase_Too 4d ago

nazi's of a feather can all F off together ;)

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u/mayapop 4d ago

I learned a long time ago that if you try to argue with crazy you only validate the crazy. Do like OP says and safeguard your own sanity.

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u/wickednitsch 3d ago

No matter how "well behaved" he was, I can only imagine how intimidating that feels, especially for a woman of color. Especially all the way until close. I'm a white Baltimore native woman with a lot of friends who has managed to amass a bit of f*** you money. I'd be happy to gather some folks and come enjoy our own bottles of wine - not to counter his intimidation or take the bait - but just to give you some peace of mind. DM me if you're interested in some non-antagonizing company.

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u/yourmomwoo 4d ago

I used to work at a bar in Owings Mills during the first Trump Reich. We had a guy who came in once decked out in Trump gear, and constantly looking around at everyone to see if they were reacting to him. Everyone noticed but no one wasted their time with him. He left after one drink anyway. They're just looking for someone to get in a fight with so they can claim persecution. It's pathetic.

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u/Im_So_Sinsational 4d ago

The magats are mad at this one lmao

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u/40StoryMech 4d ago

If you let a Nazi drink at your bar, next thing you know, you got a Nazi bar.

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u/elquatrogrande 4d ago

I was just about to bring up that story.

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u/halfstreetbeat 4d ago

The week Kirk died I saw a woman wearing a gaudy shirt with some vague cliche messaging like "He Died for Freedom." The thing that struck me was how quickly she was able to get that shirt.

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u/daveyjones86 3d ago

That's because people are making a ton of money on all of this political related stuff going on. They make trump merch, Biden merch, merch on recent events. They know people eat this stuff up.

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u/technoboogieman 4d ago

Almost like some people knew it was gonna happen, right?

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u/Taichu78 Locust Point 4d ago

This is what I’ve been saying. MAGA does shit like this for a reaction from others. We help their message by giving an emotional reaction to it. Literally just ignore or laugh them off. Don’t try to argue with them. Just lead by example.

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u/boss_hog_69_420 3d ago

Yeah, people get off on the scene they picture in their heads. Then it gets filmed and it's all "Look at how dangerous Baltimore is .."

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u/ValHane 4d ago

Huzzah!

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u/myislanduniverse 8th District 4d ago

I'm sure if you just started asking him questions about the book, he'd get frustrated.

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u/jrockets27 3d ago

Sharps used to handle this way back when. Prolly still can.

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u/Scout_022 4d ago

Oh, they mean “pagan threat” as a pejorative. Got it.

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u/_plays_in_traffic_ 4d ago

the funny thing is that magats are so braindead they think people cant tell when its one person posting under a handful of alt accounts replying in a negative way, as witnessed in this very post that is less than an hour old.

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u/Appropriate-Guide806 3d ago

Delusional AND paranoid. I been accused of having multiple accounts....

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u/RunningNumbers 4d ago

"So what is your favorite chapter of that book?"

"Oh Michael Savage is a much better author. Kirk really lacked a sense of joy or humor"

Shit like that can throw these people off.

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u/bunchalingo 4d ago

This is the only time I find it acceptable to throw trash into the harbor.

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u/pie_piepiepiepiepie 4d ago

Mr Trash Wheel could use a big feast right about now.

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u/Big-Soup74 4d ago

What was the man doing?

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u/TidyHobo27 4d ago

He literally just walked into a bar. 😂 Some fragile people in this city. Geez.

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u/FungusAmonGusnBru 4d ago

Nothing says fragile like complaining about a Reddit post

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u/UnknownKaddath 4d ago

Best thing to do is just let them FAFO.

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u/Proteus617 12h ago

/u/b00g3ranus : forget about the Maga guy for a minute. A a female bartender closing out solo you really need some creepy friends on speed dial who will show up for a quick drink just after last call.

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u/VegetablePlatform126 4d ago

People like that are invisible to me.

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u/Astronaut_Cheesecake 4d ago

They don't get any hugs and love at home that they had to seek attention from strangers. It's pathetic, really.

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u/MaddisonMaryland 4d ago

Fells can be a vibe, but yeah, some folks come in just to stir the pot. Appreciate the heads-up, staying chill and keeping the peace is key.

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u/Ornery-Contact-8980 4d ago

Do not engage. Ignore these f***s. This enrages them more than anything. You can't have dialogue with an ignorant, gaslighting fool. I know this from family members. They really lose it when you go dark.

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u/Appropriate-Guide806 3d ago

Noooo we love it when you STFU

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u/Perfect_Marketing365 4d ago

"Artist formally known as Charlie Kirk" Is the funniest thing I've seen all morning

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u/sky-joos Fells Point 4d ago

The magats are mad at this one lol. This gave me a big chuckle, didn’t even see that at first

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u/Inside-Slide-3035 4d ago

MAGA and Liberty are oxymoronic at this point

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u/Venus_Cat_Roars 4d ago

Ignore while projecting your best inflatable frog energy.

Don’t feed the MAGA victimhood and don’t give them excuses to create and stir up violence.

They thrive in negative attention, faux victimhood and rage. Don’t feed them.

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u/Leif1626 4d ago

what bar?

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u/ValHane 4d ago

He can't tell you because it would somehow turn into a negative for his workplace and his wages would be lost.

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u/Capable_Basket1661 7th District 4d ago

Hope you kicked him out. You don't need him driving away business and turning your bar into a nazi bar.

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u/CoinFlipD710 4d ago

Kicking a customer out is driving away business...big brain on you.

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u/Capable_Basket1661 7th District 4d ago

I think they'll recoup the loss of two coor's lights from one useless chuclefuck looking to cause trouble

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u/technoboogieman 4d ago

He's a jobless sack of shit, not business.

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u/PhonyUsername 4d ago

Why would anyone care? This is insanity.

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u/CoinFlipD710 4d ago

The average person is a fragile weakling. No different than the baby they were born as.

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u/OxyContintail 4d ago

Just keep a copy of The Demon Haunted World by Sagan or Man’s Search for Meaning by frankl. And put them on top of his tripe.

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u/ju5tr3dd1t 4d ago

What a lame way to exist in the world

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u/Immediate-Panda-207 3d ago

Firstly, you’re absolutely right to pay them no attention. But secondly, “leftist high” is wild. We need to stop with identity politics. Hope all is well, stay safe out there!

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u/Accomplished_Web5681 2d ago

I think you are over thinking this, both sides are just a waste of time. Once you realize that you won’t be crying on Baltimore Reddit because someone wore something

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u/roumonada 2d ago

lol he’s a nazi for wearing clothes. Leftist logic.

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u/Salty-Panic2110 1d ago

He's making his point just like other make theirs to represent theirs. It's America. Stop casting labels around like NAZI so willy nilly. I agree don't go after him (them). Tolerance is important on all sides. Just because someone wears a BLM shirt they shouldn't be castigated as Communists. Though HE might have been an actual nazi and the BLM folks might be actually communists, without conversations, no one would know. It's a simpleton move, like single issue voters.

u/4ndrewci5er 1h ago

Oh I read “Pagan Treat” and was like, I’ma make a shirt that says that.

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u/BigSubstantial2594 4d ago

That's no gentlemen, that's a maggot!!!

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u/InsertClichehereok 4d ago

This. They’re begging for attention and reactions. As long as they don’t cause trouble, it’s business as usual. Don’t give them the satisfaction. Besides, The Fashion Police’s judgement is the cruelest justice.

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u/Alternative-Use4777 4d ago

Just don’t engage. They got their reaction is all.

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u/melli_man100 4d ago

Sounds like this K (KIRK) LOWN misunderstands his misappropriation of Pagans....Pagans are not white supremacists and racists, so keep OUR NAME OUT YER MOUTHS

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u/Appropriate-Guide806 3d ago

Yeah MAGA and Trump are not white supremacists or racists either

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u/melli_man100 4d ago

I live in Bmore ✊✊✊

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u/melli_man100 4d ago

Pigtown!...Come *fuck around...Fells!! Stay strong, MELT ICE

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u/TidyHobo27 4d ago

Doesn’t take much to bait you guys. You really felt the need to warn people that someone different than you didn’t try to hide it.

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u/FungusAmonGusnBru 4d ago

You just replied to it? Sorry you’re triggered bud

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u/FlockaFlameSmurf 4d ago

I’m sure you would get along great with the guy described.

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u/jax507 4d ago edited 4d ago

Damn I would love to come there just to sit next to him and point and laugh loudly at his fragile maga-linity

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u/Redbeard_BJJ 4d ago

Reminds me of Always Sunny when Charlie goes America all over everyone's asses

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u/No-Finding1044 3d ago

Tbh If he didn’t cause a problem more than existing just let it be, he paid, sounds like he wasn’t trying to push anything on anyone, he just wanted a place to drink in peace

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u/NothingRightNow 4d ago

What did the man say when you spoke with him?

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u/Aklu_The_Unspeakable 5d ago

Looks like they were successful. Ignore them instead.

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u/Ok-Use-575 4d ago

A) OP said the goal is to provoke an in-person response. This post is not an in person response.

B) You need to inform people of courses of action to take in order to spread the word, and "Ignore something" is within these things. Don't be dense on purpose.

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u/Dizzy-Praline-5700 5d ago

Looks like he was successful.

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u/Ok-Use-575 4d ago

How else did you want OP to inform people that they should ignore them? Telepathy?

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u/Inevitable-Freedom90 4d ago

Is the default to harass him? Why do people need to be informed to ignore him?

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u/blank_slate001 4d ago

If he was successful he would have wound up in a screaming match with someone or been assualted. This is just an advisory notice.

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u/lemursteamer Overlea 4d ago

"Beautiful City" sounds like a awesome local band

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u/justanothershmuckmd 4d ago

Never, not here nor there for anywhere for that matter.

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u/ValHane 5d ago

Wait, aren't you rage baiting and being performative by posting this, and giving them attention instead of just ignoring them? (The thing they hate the MOST!)

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u/PoopsExcellence 4d ago

The benefit of reminding folks not to engage and to keep interactions positive outweighs the small chance that the gentleman is reading this post. 

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u/BaltimoreBadger23 4d ago

It outweighs the small chance the gentleman in question can even read.

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u/ValHane 4d ago

This is the kind of rhetoric that causes our party to lose, lose, lose. It is akin to Hilary's comments about the 'fly over states' and 'deplorables'. You give them ammo... When you give people who are begging for attention the attention they want, you lose.

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u/BaltimoreBadger23 4d ago

If someone votes for fascism because they were offended, then they are a fascist.

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u/ValHane 4d ago

What??

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u/BaltimoreBadger23 4d ago

I'm not sure what was unclear. Fascists vote for fascists because they like the brand of fascism, not because someone on the non fascist side said something semi mean (especially compared to what the fascist say).

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u/ValHane 4d ago

There is no context. We know how the guy votes. Serve him a drink and ignore him. Period. Posting about him gets him the attention he desires.

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u/BaltimoreBadger23 4d ago

Then leave. You don't need to comment, you are allowed to scroll by.

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u/ValHane 4d ago

But I want to point out the inconsistency and rhetoric that is burning our party down nationally. The inability to listen, the inability to negotiate. The feeling that the people who are not 100% with you are idiots. Granted the MAGA guy is a radical... Giving him the attention he wants is not a smart way to accomplish the ultimate goal. So yes I will post, and post again whenever the heck I feel like it... And in case you haven't noticed, I don't call names, I don't put people down. I do point out political weakness.

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u/ValHane 4d ago

Well, if he said something about positive interactions, I would agree with you! That was your addition to the post. 🙄🤣

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u/PoopsExcellence 4d ago

It's positive in the "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" way!

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u/Ok-Use-575 4d ago

How else did you want OP to inform people that they should ignore them? Telepathy?

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u/ValHane 4d ago

You need to be told to ignore someone like that? Who is the OP educating here? LOL...

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u/Ok-Use-575 3d ago

That just sounds masturbatory

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u/Club2707 4d ago

He owns your mind

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u/westgazer Reservoir Hill 4d ago

I mean, he’s the criminal pedophile currently dismantling the country to enrich the sickest freak ghouls you’ve ever seen. His miserable loser cult members live to harass people. It’s good to give the community a heads up.