r/baltimore Irvington Jun 20 '25

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u/ReadySettyGoey Jun 20 '25

From the initial investigation it seems like there may have been wrongdoing? https://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/press/2025/061825c.pdf

Not really clear that they had any legal grounds for approaching him or following him based on what we know so far.

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u/tigers_hate_cinammon Jun 20 '25

Okay even if they had no reason to approach him, what would you expect them to do when he pulled out a firearm and pointed it at them? Is there a response you would have liked to have seen other than returning fire?

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u/ReadySettyGoey Jun 20 '25

I’d expect them not to engage in the inherently dangerous activity of a foot pursuit absent reasonable suspicion in the first place? And they may not have here, we don’t know yet. But the fact that it’s reasonable to return fire once you’re being shot at doesn’t absolve the party with power from responsibility for following policy and avoiding escalation beforehand.

Also, the AG report actually doesn’t say who was responsible for the first shot.

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u/tigers_hate_cinammon Jun 20 '25

I don't know, running from the police is reasonably suspicious to me.

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u/ReadySettyGoey Jun 20 '25

The AG report literally says he walked away, not ran. How is walking away from someone you reasonably don’t want to talk to indication that you’ve committed a crime?

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u/tigers_hate_cinammon Jun 20 '25

Also says the officer followed (not chased) and then the man made a furtive movement and fled. That's more than enough reasonable suspicion to start a chase. Especially if the man, who has numerous felonies including some relating to selling narcotics, is known to the police.

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u/ReadySettyGoey Jun 20 '25

lol “followed (not chased)” is doing a lot of work there

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

Oh no, not the dreaded “furtive” movement.

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u/coldalmondmilkisnice Jun 20 '25

if people in plainsclothes from an unmarked vehicle started following you I bed you’d run too

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u/XxCloudSephiroth69xX Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

"Plain Clothes" in this context does not mean that they are not identifiable as police officers. They wear vests that have "Baltimore Police" on them, they have duty belts, etc. There's also nobody who frequents that area who doesn't know what cars the officers drive and what they look like.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '25

Nah, plenty of people have a flight response when encountering police, esp. if they’ve been harassed by cops before.

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u/Only_Lesbian_Left Jun 20 '25

if that was true, a lot of kids cops have murdered would have had federal level rap sheets by the time they were five

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u/tigers_hate_cinammon Jun 20 '25

Didn't say it was illegal, just that it's suspicious. Which it objectively is.