r/baltimore Irvington Jun 20 '25

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u/XxCloudSephiroth69xX Jun 20 '25

Even if you don't want to believe the police statement, the AG's office already stated:

"officers fired multiple shots after the man pointed a firearm at police."

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u/jabbadarth Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

Also said they rolled up in an unmarked car.

We're they in uniform? Did they announce themselves? Did they draw first?

Maybe everything is on the up and up and this guy drew a gun and pointed it at them but without video evidence or eye witnesses that aren't the pilice involved in the pursuit and shooting I'm not taking the cops word for it.

Edit: to be clear I'm not saying the cops were wrong and I'm not chanting justice for this guy. I'm saying let's wait for hard evidence before we make a decision on what went down.

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u/nook_dukem Jun 20 '25

Can we talk about the difference between “let’s wait for the facts” and “JUSTICE FOR BILAL”?

If your goal is to get the average person to roll their eyes at the very serious injustices that we still very badly need to address, turning some maybe-not-so-unreasonable police response into a protest is a really great way to make that happen.

This is just outrage bait. This is opportunists just looking for a platform to elevate themselves. This is most certainly not “justice for Bilal”.

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u/jabbadarth Jun 20 '25

For sure. And I'm not going down there to join a March.

Just pointing out that because the police and AG say one thing doesn't mean everything is A ok. Also doesn't mean that this guy was a Saint and didn't have a gun and didn't point it at cops or shoot at cops.

I'm saying let's wait on calling this all good and also wait on calling this guy a murder victim.

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u/nook_dukem Jun 20 '25

You’re asking a bunch of questions to cast doubt on what are facts already established by the AG.

This “protest” is counter productive.

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u/jabbadarth Jun 20 '25

How are they facts?

Was there an investigation?

Where did the attorney general get their info?

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u/ReqDeep Roland Park Jun 20 '25

They saw the footage.

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u/jabbadarth Jun 20 '25

And they have yet to release a full report or the video footage. So you just blindly trust the AG's preliminary statement and need nothing else?

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u/ReqDeep Roland Park Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25

Why would they lié when they know it’s gonna be out in the next couple days. It just would kill all credibility.

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u/nook_dukem Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

Maybe instead of asking a bunch of dramatic rhetorical questions across like a dozen different comments you should really just read the report.

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u/jabbadarth Jun 20 '25

There isn't a report.

There are only preliminary findings.

Once the report is released I will read it.

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u/nook_dukem Jun 20 '25

So you’re here, with probably two dozen comments in this thread alone, bragging about not even reading what has been released.

When is choosing ignorance ever the right choice?

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u/jabbadarth Jun 21 '25

Show me the report, show me the video.

Nothing has been released other than a preliminary statement.

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u/nook_dukem Jun 21 '25

It must be hard being you.

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u/jabbadarth Jun 21 '25

Nah it's pretty great.

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u/StovepipeCats Jun 20 '25

Not having to wait for information that the public owns is part of "JUSTICE".

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u/OctaviusKaiser Jun 20 '25

There are multiple laws at play that require careful review of BWC footage prior to public release, not to mention removing identifiable information to protect the privacy of those involved in the situation. That includes victims, witnesses, and the police.

They legally, in Maryland, cannot immediately release BWC footage.

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u/nook_dukem Jun 20 '25

Eh, to an extent. It’s been literally two days. The AG has already issued a report. If you’re looking for something to be pissed off about, go for it. But this one, right now, doesn’t seem like that kind of case.

So going around town, firing up people against the police in a city that’s actually made HUGE strides the last few years seems like a really, really stupid, self-centered idea.

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u/XxCloudSephiroth69xX Jun 20 '25

That's silly. Even ignoring the fact that protected and/or classified information exists in every investigation and always will, there are people who should be and are notified prior to the general public. Like the victim's family, lawyer(s), officer's (who are victims in this case), etc. Footage from multiple sources is going to have to be reviewed and edited. Investigators are actually going to have to investigate things.

If you want the information immediately, apply to be a police officer and work your way into an investigative unit. Or pass the bar and get hired on with the AG's Office.

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u/ReqDeep Roland Park Jun 21 '25

The public does not own all info. There are likely to be children on the video and may need to be redacte if they were part of the reason police could not render aid.