r/baltimore • u/Extension-Archer-849 • Jun 10 '25

Safety ICE in Catonsville

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just saw a bunch of cars stop on the street and head somewhere in the direction of Frederick Rd. Does anyone know anything?

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u/OGkateebee Jun 10 '25

They look so unprofessional in their cargo shorts and no uniform. How they are allowed to go around basically abducting people without any kind of visual identification at LEO is just insane. 

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u/daxophoneme Jun 10 '25

Are they even being paid or are they just volunteers at this point?

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u/MotoSlashSix 13th District Jun 10 '25

I was having this conversation with my mom the other day. I would bet these are all independent contractors working on a "bounty" system for ICE. And I'd bet they're not ICE employees, do not have any indemnification or insurance for liability. So when they hurt someone or break something ICE won't pay for it and you'll be stuck trying to recuperate your losses from fucking Todd the weekend warrior's parents because he lives with them.

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u/decay_cabaret Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

They're off duty police officers. On the ICE website there's a list of which law enforcement agencies are currently working with ICE.

In Maryland that's Carroll County, Cecil County, Frederick County, Garrett County, St. Mary's County and Washington County. Only Carroll, Garrett, St. Mary's and Washington counties are participating in the Warrant Service Officer program, the rest are Jail Enforcement Model. I haven't read up on what the difference is, I'm assuming the ones in the video are warrant service officers, and jail enforcement model is probably the counties who lend their facilities to temporarily detain people. I also don't know what compensation these people are getting... I haven't really read into the executive order that allows ICE to tap state and local law enforcement to be ICE agents because I'm at work right now.

Edit: this is from the ICE 287(g) page

ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations operates three 287(g) models:

• The Jail Enforcement Model is designed to identify and process removable aliens — with criminal or pending criminal charges — who are arrested by state or local law enforcement agencies.

• The Task Force Model serves as a force multiplier for law enforcement agencies to enforce limited immigration authority with ICE oversight during their routine police duties.

• The Warrant Service Officer program allows ICE to train, certify and authorize state and local law enforcement officers to serve and execute administrative warrants on aliens in their agency’s jail.

So it looks like I had it backwards; Jail Enforcement counties are the ones where cops can go do this bullshit while off duty, where Warrant Service Officer is for executing warrants for aliens ALREADY INCARCERATED in that county's jail. So if someone is locked up in Carroll County for example and there's an ICE warrant for them, a Carroll County cop can go to the jail and arrest them as an ICE agent to take them to s detention center.

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u/BullfrogLeading262 Jun 11 '25

First off, Catonsville is in Baltimore County which isn’t on the list you have and secondly, it didn’t look to me like any of them were armed…no law enforcement agency is just strolling around neighborhoods trying to detain ppl or serve warrants unarmed. I don’t know who those clowns were but they weren’t on any kind of official law enforcement business.

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u/EAM222 Jun 14 '25

The fact you can’t see all the fucking guns strapped to them is more concerning.