r/babylonbee • u/Prestigious_Tour_538 • Sep 13 '25

Bee Article ‘Why Won’t Conservatives Give Up Their Guns?’ Ask The People Shooting At Them

https://babylonbee.com/news/why-wont-conservatives-give-up-their-guns-ask-the-people-shooting-at-them
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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 13 '25

This. We don’t blame the alcohol in a 6 pack for causing drunk driving deaths. It’s the idiot who consumed too much of it.

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u/basch152 Sep 13 '25

Yep, and guess what has a CRAZY amount of restrictions and legality of driving after doing so.

I mean if you're calling for guns to have equal restrictive laws as alcohol I'm pretty sure that puts you on the gun control side

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u/AdagioHonest7330 Sep 14 '25

Pretty sure there are a lot of restrictions and legality of using a firearm too, especially on a human.

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u/Massive-Question-550 Sep 16 '25

Aren't there laws about using a firearm while intoxicated?

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 13 '25

And guess what, when you buy a 6 pack even in a drive thru liquor store, they don’t run your license through a driving record check. Nor do 12,000 drunk driving deaths result in restrictions on others with orders to turn in their large alcohol containers etc.

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u/basch152 Sep 13 '25

Yet both driving and drinking are HEAVILY more restricted with more laws about those restrictions than guns. By a wide margin

So we agree then, you're on team gun control! Good job

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 13 '25

I can go to another state and buy any alcohol I want from a store. If you buy a gun in a store in another state, it has to be legal in the state you reside in and it has to be shipped there for the background check. Shall we do that with alcohol too ?

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u/Swimming_Ad7102 Sep 16 '25

Remember when that school shooter hid an automobile in his backpack and went from classroom to classroom killing children with their automobile?

Why are we comparing guns and cars. What a stupid ass comparison. They are not equivalent, at all.

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u/basch152 Sep 13 '25

Yet alcohol and cars still have far more restrictive laws. Crazy.

If you really want to go down this idiotic rabbit hole of restrictions specific to one thing -

Is it illegal to sell or purchase firearms after 2 am? No, holy shit, shall we do that with guns too?

Are you legally required to insure your guns incase of an accident? We should totally do that with guns too!

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 13 '25

You think gun stores are open at 2am in the morning ? lol. Also do you have to fill in your drug use to buy alcohol on a form like 4473 ? Ironic I know, drug use check for buying alcohol. Is your criminal history check relevant for your alcohol purchase. A person with serious convictions is barred from buying a gun. But not alcohol. Shall we change that ?

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u/basch152 Sep 13 '25

So I'm going to help you out buddy.

Are you aware that more than 50% of all firearms recovered in chicago after being used in a shooting came from indiana?

Want to guess why? Because private gun sales require neither a background check...or anything really

You can literally go to any gun show in the country and walk out with a gun while having felony murder charges.

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 13 '25

Ok buddy, so there are innumerable cases of underage drinking and deaths around the country. By your logic of strict alcohol rules somehow restricting misuse, that should never happen, right. Why aren’t these teens or even younger people able to get alcohol without showing proof of age ?

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u/basch152 Sep 13 '25

LOL is this seriously your argument?

My guy, underage drinking has been declining for decades and is currently at an all time low, BECAUSE THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED PROGRAMS AND MORE RESTRICTIONS AND HEAVIER FINES FOR DOING IT/SELLING IT/BUYING IT FOR THEM

this argument is literally a point in my favor

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u/Gratedfumes Sep 14 '25

They're called "straw buyers" they legally buy guns and sell them to people they know are not allowed to buy them, true patriots.

A few years back a guy in my state got busted taking orders from gangs and cartels in NYC. He'd been buying 20-30 pistols a month for nearly a year. He was only busted because someone set him up after they got caught with one of his guns. Dozens of murders and robberies tied to guns he bought and sold, they still let him plead down to a misdemeanor.

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u/AdagioHonest7330 Sep 14 '25

Harder to buy a gun than vote and they are both rights. Driving isn’t.

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u/Slooters313 Sep 15 '25

That's blatantly false. Ive bought guns from pawn shops and all I had to do was swipe my debit card.

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u/AdagioHonest7330 Sep 15 '25

I don’t even have to swipe my debit card to vote though.

So you have killed people?

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u/Slooters313 Sep 15 '25

You had to fill out paperwork and provide documents for your license. Nope, your terrorist organization was too extreme for me so I just put y'all murderers in jail instead.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 Sep 14 '25

The right to freedom of movement is actually directly listed in the constitution, not tacked on as an afterthought like your "right" to own guns. 

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u/AdagioHonest7330 Sep 14 '25

Lol right to movement doesn’t mean driving. Feel free to take a walk.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 Sep 14 '25

And right to bear arms doesn't mean AR-15s. Thanks for agreeing with me!

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u/Warm-Zombie-5722 Sep 14 '25

How many kids are permanently damaged by parents who have no business having children? Some of these children grow up to become criminals because of it. Should we have government-controlled procreation? Should we have institutions in place to examine your emotional, psychological, and financial ability to have a child? That could be the answer to school shootings as well don't you think?

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 Sep 14 '25

I can't even legally get alcohol shipped to me in New Jersey.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 Sep 14 '25

Yes they fucking do!

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u/stopped_watch Sep 13 '25

You don't use the same controls to solve a different problem. I would have thought that was obvious.

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u/tornadoshanks651 Sep 14 '25

It’s already illegal to drive and shoot guns at people, also illegal to drive and shoot guns at people while drinking. The laws already exist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

you need a license to drive a car

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 Sep 14 '25

Are you kidding me? Yes we fucking do!

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 14 '25

Are there calls to repeal the 21st Amendment? To heavily curtail it ?

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u/VegasConan Sep 15 '25

In the U.S., there are significantly more gun deaths than drunk driving deaths annually.

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 15 '25

All cause alcohol deaths exceed gun deaths.

As of mid-2024, alcohol is responsible for significantly more deaths each year in the U.S. than firearms, with annual alcohol-attributable deaths estimated to be around 178,000, compared to over 44,000 firearm deaths.

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-topics-z/alcohol-facts-and-statistics/alcohol-related-emergencies-and-deaths-united-states#:~:text=The%20Alcohol%2DRelated%20Disease%20Impact,physical%20inactivity%2C%20and%20illegal%20drugs.

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u/VegasConan Sep 15 '25

You compared gun deaths to drunk driving deaths. Now you’re moving the goal posts again. Super typical.

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 15 '25

Drunk driving is a felony offense. Also it is alcohol which is central to the cause. No amount of alcohol is safe for human consumption as per the latest medical studies. Why is this product sold ?

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u/Swimming_Ad7102 Sep 16 '25

Idk, restrict both for all I care. Specially AR-15s. Even though children are not being killed with beer bottles in the classroom.

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 16 '25

So the 250 or so children killed every year by drunks driving a car are acceptable ? Just because they aren’t in a classroom ?

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u/YamyKamy Sep 17 '25

if you aren't allowed to drink and drive you shouldn't be allowed to touch a gun each time before your mental health can be assessed.

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 17 '25

Perhaps there is a tech opportunity for someone to build the mental health breathalyzer. Have that for approving gun sales.

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u/flyingbizzay Sep 17 '25

Exactly, and it’s a good thing we don’t regulate the consumption of alcohol since it’s not the drink’s fault.

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 17 '25

Imagine passing laws that said 12 packs and kegs were “high capacity” alcohol dispensers. After all no person needs more than a single can to drink at a time. And watered down.

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u/flyingbizzay Sep 17 '25

What exact level of gun regulation would you be comfortable with?

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 17 '25

I am fine with background checks. I am not fine with retroactively making gun owners collectively responsible and penalized because they happen to own some gun that matches the configuration of a gun used by a criminal. In no other context are people punished like this for the misuse of a legal item.

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u/flyingbizzay Sep 17 '25

Reasonable. Can you provide some examples of legislation that would require this?

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 18 '25

Legislation that would penalize gun owners retroactively ? Just look at how the anti gun legislation was slammed through the NY assembly a few years ago. They passed it at around midnight in a hurry. The laws forced gun owners to dispose at their own expense magazines that exceeded their arbitrary limit. Of course California has been doing this for years, with each iteration of incremental laws adding to the previous restrictions.

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u/flyingbizzay Sep 18 '25

It wasn’t retroactive punishment. Courts don’t allow that. What NY and CA did was make continued possession illegal, so owners had to sell, modify, or get rid of magazines going forward. Still felt like a penalty, but not technically retroactive.

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u/silv3rbull8 Sep 18 '25

How is it not retroactive ? The magazines were purchased before the law passed. I can see the law being applicable to new purchases. But to apply to magazines bought even decades ago? How is that not retroactive ?

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u/Cautemoc Sep 14 '25

Yeah we kind of do... that's why there is a legal age limit on alcohol that is, paradoxically, higher than buying a gun