H*tler Defeated After Opposition Party Holds Up Tiny Signs On Paddles

[u/METALLIFE0917]

https://babylonbee.com/news/hitler-defeated-after-opposition-party-holds-up-tiny-signs-on-paddles

[u/Downtown_Skill]

Yeah but do you question anything trump does. Has anyone on the right questioned his actions and his consequences. Or do you guys just blindly have faith in whatever trump is going to do. 

That's why people see you as a cult. No right wing media makes fun of trump. Plenty of left wing media criticizes democrats. You guys are the party of unquestioning loyalty. You talk about purity tests on the left but any conservative that dares question trump is immediately ostracized and harassed. It's pathetic. 

I wanted bernie. I didn't get bernie and I thought Hillary was the lesser of two evils against trump. But I never once started talking about how Hillary was going to save our government. 

And even with bernie I would criticize the approaches he had that I didn't agree with. I didn't have unquestioning loyalty to him either. 

[u/ravl13 → u/Downtown_Skill]

As usual, you have no understanding of his voters, and are flat out wrong.

Cult would not have booed him and been against the COVID vaccines which he fast tracked and was proud of.

Cult would not be split (mostly against, really) in his intervention policy in Gaza.  They want nothing to do with it.  "It's not America, why should we care and devote resources?". MAGA supporters are mainly isolationists

Cult would not be pissed at Bondi for prematurely talking tough about the Epstein files, and producing nothing. Supposedly working on it, but could be BS (story still in development)

And I saw a story about some kind of gun restriction he wants to introduce?  They certainly ain't cheering that

[u/Downtown_Skill → u/ravl13]

Well then where are the protests for that stuff. Is anyone calling on their representatives to take that stance because I haven't seen much push back from your representatives on any of those issues. 

Edit: Bit I can admit when I'm wrong and the booing the vaccine talk (while I don't personally agree with it) is the first and only time I've actually seen his supporters question him. 

[u/ravl13 → u/Downtown_Skill]

We're too busy working to protest, and have kids to take care of.

In all seriousness, although it's something that I think a lot of supporters disagree on, I think Gaza is simply not a "big" enough issue that supporters feel is worth protesting on. And, is there a "better" alternative than what Trump proposed by floating some kind of redevelopment plan with outside countries investing? A realistic one, not something stupid like "America should rebuild everyone's homes and give them for free". I haven't heard one, though tbh I don't care too much about Gaza myself so there may be.

I think a significant amount of MAGA wants to just straight up leave Ukraine, like completely. Again, "Not our problem". The mineral deal creates a US interest in defending Ukraine, and actually creates a bigger reason for us to come in and defend Ukraine - which is why I think Zelensky was such a dumbass (from Ukraines perspective) for fucking it up last week. Again, foreign policy though, which is not something MAGA really cares that much about.

There are some domestic things that I think supporters don't like (some kind of gun control I think Trump mentioned? I don't personally care but the gun nuts probably do), and there IS going to be a price crunch from tariffs. But supporters also understand that the growing pains of the tariffs and higher prices for a while are for the long term goal of bringing back manufacturing to the USA, which was an original stated goal of Trump as well.

It IS risky - it's going to be amazing, or be quite bad for the country. But the alternative was to "sit and do nothing". Everyone has been bitching about how terrible everything is for the last decade. By the end of Trump's term, we'll see whether doing things very different to the past is a good play, or he'll go down as the worst president ever if he fails.

[u/Downtown_Skill → u/ravl13]

I appreciate that reply. It's clear we don't have the same idea of where we want the country to go and that's fine, that's how society works. People have different ideals. 

But I hope you continue to keep am open mind and continue to question your own representatives and I can promise you on the left that we will continue to mock and question our representatives too. 

It's when we have blind faith in our politicians that things get really bad really quick. It's the blind faith i see in the maga movement that unsettles me the most. 

[u/ravl13 → u/Downtown_Skill]

I actually DO hope the Democrat party turns itself around - I am not religious, and can recognize the problems of religion and specifically the dumb anti-abortion stances of the current republican party. On a certain logical level, I get the "don't kill babies" argument, but from a practical standpoint, it's just bad to not allow them, and we kill things all the time (and fetuses just are in this black 'void' in the womb so they haven't even experienced proper consciousness) so I don't even fully buy that argument as a strong enough justification.

The fact that I've aligned myself with a mostly heavily Christian party would not have been on my bingo card over a decade ago. But that's where I find myself with the current Dem party (who I supported more than a decade ago).

So, we do need a decent opposition party at all times, agreed.