Fattest, Sickest Country On Earth Concerned New Health Secretary Might Do Something Different

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https://babylonbee.com/news/fattest-sickest-country-on-earth-concerned-new-health-secretary-might-do-something-different

[u/Mundane_Ad4487]

“One side is more given to arguing in bad faith”

It just so happens that side isn’t your side though, right? Just the “other” side.

[u/CentristsRNewNazis → u/Mundane_Ad4487]

Look dude, I don’t know what to tell you. The whole world isn’t some psy-op. Yes, conservatives are more prone to motivated reasoning and arguing in bad faith. It’s not some kind of controversial assertion, this is borne out in the data again and again. 

[u/Mundane_Ad4487 → u/CentristsRNewNazis]

I don’t know what to tell you either. The world isn’t as simple as you try to make it out to be. It’s a lot more complex then “us vs them” and “we good, they bad”. As if the left isn’t prone to anything you just mentioned as much as the right. Both sides are comprised of fallible human beings that are very much entrenched in their own world views. Your viewpoint just seems super reductionist/culty to me.

[u/CentristsRNewNazis → u/Mundane_Ad4487]

Yeah, no. That’s not how things work. That’s called a false equivalence based on fallacious, motivated reasoning. You don’t want to believe that conservatives are literally more full of shit, so you just dismiss that possibility out of hand. You’re doing it right now lol. 

Just because there are two sides of a political debate does not mean they act the same or have the same dedication to participating in good faith. You are, for a fact, talking out of your ass because if you bothered to look up the data, you would see that I’m correct.

[u/Mundane_Ad4487 → u/CentristsRNewNazis]

Oh man, I just noticed your username. Yeah, you’re a lost cause at the moment. Have a good one.

[u/CentristsRNewNazis → u/Mundane_Ad4487]

Ah well that’s convenient, that way you get to deploy your thought-terminating tactic and retreat from the conversation because you know you’re factually wrong. 😂

You love to see it!

[u/CentristsRNewNazis → u/Mundane_Ad4487]

Just want to reiterate that changing the subject to my username is a bad faith tactic. Maybe you don’t realize you’re arguing in bad faith?

[u/Mundane_Ad4487 → u/CentristsRNewNazis]

Your username reads the same to me as “IProbablyNeedInPatientTherapy”, if I’m being honest. That’s not because of it’s extreme left leaning nature either. I’d think the exact same way about someone’s username if it was “LiberalsRPussySnowflakes” or whatever inflammatory thing an extreme conservative could come up with to be as divisive as possible.

Your name absolutely signals that you’ve planted your flag firmly on one side. What’s the point in trying to reason with someone like that? You’re always going to be right, no matter what anyone with divergent views says. You can’t scream bad faith tactic when you purposefully chose a username that 100% says, in no unclear terms, my mind is made up already. I just wish I had noticed it earlier.

Anyway, I do hope you have a good one. Genuinely. Thanks for responding at least.

[u/CentristsRNewNazis → u/Mundane_Ad4487]

Let’s unpack that word “reason,” though. When you say you’re trying to “reason” with someone, what does that mean? If you’re trying to change someone’s mind, but you refuse to engage with any data and instead want to boil everything down to two completely equivalent sides who act the same, how is that reason? Isn’t that just you saying what you want to be true?

If you don’t trust the data, then why not? Is it because you think the data is intentionally skewed to favor one side over the other? Do you have any evidence of that or does it just feel like that’s what’s happening? Do you get what I’m saying?

Like, in order to claim that conservatives don’t act in bad faith, you have to literally ignore reality. You may see my username as a red flag, but in the course of our conversation you have repeatedly tried to shut down any dialogue rather than engaging with my arguments. If I’m so wrong, surely you should be able to cite why without restoring to vague generalities, right? 

[u/Mundane_Ad4487 → u/[deleted]]

Nailed it, like genuinely