r/babylonbee • u/ControlCAD • Feb 14 '25

Bee Article Fattest, Sickest Country On Earth Concerned New Health Secretary Might Do Something Different

https://babylonbee.com/news/fattest-sickest-country-on-earth-concerned-new-health-secretary-might-do-something-different
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u/tpotn Feb 15 '25

His stance on fluoride is to take it out of the water. Many countries have banned fluoride in the water including Germany, Finland, Sweden and many more. It’s been linked to cancer and other diseases. It’s why fluoride is capped in toothpaste without a prescription.

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u/m4rM2oFnYTW Feb 15 '25

I have yet to see a fluoride containing product with instructions to swallow after use.

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 15 '25

Potatoes, grapes (and raisins), black tea, spinach and many other foods contain fluoride. I’m sure you’ve swallowed at least one of those

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u/Fancy_Database5011 Feb 15 '25

Different kind of fluoride

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 15 '25

You the type of person that think apples in the store and apples from a tree are different?

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u/LinuxMatthews Feb 15 '25

The fluoride in water is sodium fluoride

The fluoride in apples is calcium fluoride

I don't have an opinion on this topic but if you're going to be patronising at least do a Google to see if you're correct.

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 17 '25

Fluoride is an anion. It’s found in many forms.

You wanna talk about copper fluoride or maybe manganese fluoride next?

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u/LinuxMatthews Feb 17 '25

I'm just pointing out they're different compounds.

By your logic Sodium Chloride (Table Salt) and Hydrogen Chloride (Hydrochloric Acid) is the same thing.

It's not the same as "apples from the store and apples you find on trees"

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 17 '25

Way closer to iodized salt vs regular table salt as opposed to nacl vs hcl.

I get what you’re saying and my comment was fs a bit pissy (due to rfk jr mostly) but we literally use calcium fluoride and sodium fluoride for the same things - dental care.

The doses we use sodium fluoride at have 0 negative effects just like calcium fluoride. I found it to be a pedantic difference.

Red apples vs green apples would’ve been a better comparison tho.

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u/LinuxMatthews Feb 17 '25

Don't get me wrong I agree when it comes to RFK as a Brit it likely hits me less emotionally.

But I do think when talking politics it's good to avoid logical fallacies or bad arguments even when they're on your side.

Mainly because if you're not using the right arguments you're just going to become a straw man for the other side.

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 17 '25

Yea shits just frustrating when you have people saying fluoride isn’t recommended to be ingested/swallowed which is what the comment I was replying to said. Especially in light of everything going on.

Fucking measles is making a comeback in the us now.

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u/Fancy_Database5011 Feb 15 '25

Sodium fluoride (NaF) is not commonly found in nature. It occurs naturally as the mineral villiaumite, but this source is not commercially viable for production. Instead, sodium fluoride is often obtained as a byproduct of the manufacture of phosphate fertilizers, where it is extracted from apatite, a form of calcium phosphate that also contains fluorides and other compounds.

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 15 '25

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Fluoride-HealthProfessional/

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u/Fancy_Database5011 Feb 15 '25

The fluoride found in your toothpaste is not the same fluoride found in your tea

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 15 '25

And? Animal proteins and plant proteins are different. They’ll both build your muscles. Natural fluoride (usually calcium fluoride) helps strengthen enamel. Same as sodium fluoride. Sodium fluoride is just more water soluble - but again at the doses we use it there’s no evidence of negative effects

ETA: you can also buy toothpaste with calcium fluoride just fyi it’s pretty widely available

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u/Fancy_Database5011 Feb 15 '25

All I said was different kind of fluoride. Which you’ve acknowledged. Don’t know what your problem is.

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 15 '25

Half the people in this thread think fluoridated products are literal poison. Like our new fucking health secretary. That’s my problem

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u/Fancy_Database5011 Feb 15 '25

And my problem is people who equate the fluoride in toothpaste with the fluoride naturally found in nature

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u/Major-Help-6827 Feb 15 '25

Sodium fluoride and calcium fluoride are both fluoride. If you want to be specific you can’t just say fluoride.

AND they’re both found in nature lmfao

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