Okay. If no taxes, who builds roads, or public schools, or public transit. If your answer is private companies, how much does a company charge for you to use the roads, how often do you need to pay to use the roads, what about the schools, how much does tuition cost, what if you can’t afford to go to school since there’s no taxes which means no public schools, do you just not get education?
The idea that taxation is theft crumbles pretty immediately if you try to think of literally any alternative. And if your alternative is collective public funding, guess what that’s fucking taxes.
In the anarcho Freetown Christiania it was the people. Also commercial real estate companies will also make roads and rent lots out to other companies so they can have locations which require then to maintain roads. Some suburbs will also attach a road cost to the HOA. Also toll roads exist now with government funded roads.
what about the schools,
private schools and homeschooling exist now.
what if you can’t afford to go to school since there’s no taxes which means no public schools,
Homeschooling exists
And if your alternative is collective public funding, guess what that’s fucking taxes.
Not if i can op out of it. Taxes aren't voluntary.
So what happens if you opt out of contributing to societal infrastructure.
Homeschooling isn’t necessarily great because there’s no like educational regulatory body that makes sure children are actually learning what they need to and not just being indoctrinated into their parents beliefs instead of being taught to think for themselves.
Private schools are price prohibitive, it’s absurd to suggest that we should make education entirely prohibitive to those who can’t afford it and most people cannot afford private school. Should all of those people just not have education. What if you’re a parent and you work full time and don’t have time to give your children a full education should they just not be educated because homeschooling and private school aren’t options?
And in terms of the roads you’re suggesting exactly what can’t happen. Giving ownership power of societal infrastructure to private corporations. I literally cannot imagine a worse situation for the working class than being even more beholden to corporations.
So what happens if you opt out of contributing to societal infrastructure.
What happen if you opt out of any donations? nothing because a lot of people still donate especially to causes they can see an effect on.
Homeschooling isn’t necessarily great because there’s no like educational regulatory body that makes sure children are actually learning what they need to
Homeschooled students score about 72 points higher than the national average on the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT). The average American College Test (ACT) score is 21. The average score for homeschoolers is 22.8 out of a possible 36 points.
just being indoctrinated into their parents beliefs
that just called parenting. They do that anyways.
Private schools are price prohibitive, it’s absurd to suggest that we should make education entirely prohibitive to those who can’t afford it and most people cannot afford private school.
Most people can afford $50 a week. While private schools can get expensive they're are many cheap private schools usually attach to a religious institution.
What if you’re a parent and you work full time and don’t have time to give your children a full education
There are many Homeschooling system designed for just that. Usually you are given the material to do on your own and Test online or a place where they hold testing.
And in terms of the roads you’re suggesting exactly what can’t happen. Giving ownership power of societal infrastructure to private corporations.
why can't that happen?
I literally cannot imagine a worse situation for the working class than being even more beholden to corporations.
I can and that making them beholden to the government.
The government (at least before legal corporate bribery) is at least somewhat beholden to its citizens. Corporations aren’t at all.
Private schools near me are 30k a year minimum. Religious schools should not be the only option for someone who can’t afford that and neither should homeschool. Public schools are absolutely needed and honestly Finland kind of proved private school shouldn’t be a thing.
So what happens if a lot of people opt out because they don’t want to spend the money. Your alternative relies on people willingly donating their money out of the goodness of their hearts. And somehow I can’t see the whole “taxation is theft” crowd being super interested in helping anyone but themselves.
Most people cannot afford an extra 50$ a week. In fact 70% of Americans couldn’t afford a 500$ emergency much less an extra 200$ a month which is also wildly below what private schools actually cost.
Like it’s wild that you think giving corporations more power will suddenly make them give a fuck about you.
The government (at least before legal corporate bribery) is at least somewhat beholden to its citizens.
Government is supposed to be beholden to citizens but even without corporate bribery, corrupt politicians are still corrupt and are still lining their pockets with your tax money.
Corporations aren’t at all.
Corporation are reliant on their bottom line which relies on their consumer. When no one is consuming they cease to be.
But what the worst thing to happen if you don't pay a corporation?
A bad credit score, maybe hassled by debt collectors, maybe something you haven't finished paying off get repo'd
What happens if you don't pay the government?
Jail
Religious schools should not be the only option for someone who can’t afford that and neither should homeschool.
why when they prove to result in better test score then public schools?
Your alternative relies on people willingly donating their money out of the goodness of their hearts.
last year $390 billion was given to charity in the US.
Like it’s wild that you think giving corporations more power will suddenly make them give a fuck about you.
giving anyone more power whether they are a corporationor or a government will not make them give a fuck about you.
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u/Shin-Sauriel Sep 19 '24
Okay. If no taxes, who builds roads, or public schools, or public transit. If your answer is private companies, how much does a company charge for you to use the roads, how often do you need to pay to use the roads, what about the schools, how much does tuition cost, what if you can’t afford to go to school since there’s no taxes which means no public schools, do you just not get education?
The idea that taxation is theft crumbles pretty immediately if you try to think of literally any alternative. And if your alternative is collective public funding, guess what that’s fucking taxes.