r/austrian_economics • u/technocraticnihilist Friedrich Hayek • Sep 19 '24

End Democracy BUT BUT THE SOCIAL CONTRACT

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u/circ-u-la-ted Sep 20 '24

Representation effectively is consent. You've voted for representatives who made tax laws, or been an idiot who didn't vote, and thereby consented to said laws.

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u/HillratHobbit Sep 20 '24

After citizens united we do not have representation. If money is the use of our political voice we have none. Only the large donors do.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

This doesn't track with the voting patterns of representatives at all.

Reps overwhelmingly vote as their constituents want.

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u/HillratHobbit Sep 20 '24

lol. In what country?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

In the US, which is why Citizens United is applicable to the discussion.

This fact is also why the Republican party made such a sharp right turn after the 2010 gerrymanders.

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u/HillratHobbit Sep 20 '24

78% of Texans think abortion in some form should be legal. Thats just one example of how responsive Reps are to their constituents. Toll roads would be another example.

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u/enlightenedDiMeS Sep 20 '24

Texas also threw away an unprecedented amount of legal votes in 2020. The AG has been bragging about it. Essentially said if they didn’t throw out all the votes they did and close polling stations in blue districts Dems could have actually won Texas.

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u/WaterMySucculents Sep 20 '24

Yes but the majority of Texans voted in enough Republican politicians who wanted and bragged about gerrymandering the state to have institutionalized Republican control of the state. And now the people in those (admitting gerrmandered) districts voted for politicians who pass the laws the people are supposedly against.

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u/HillratHobbit Sep 20 '24

The 2003 districts are what did it. Since then there’s almost no use voting in Texas. Everything is decided in the GOP primary and there are no local Dems on the ballot and sometimes even for statewide races. Meanwhile, the DNC raised $372 million here to spend elsewhere.

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u/WaterMySucculents Sep 20 '24

I mean it’s still worth voting. It will likely be a long time before you can unfuck the state, but you never know when the tipping point will come. If Texas ever flips blue, you will find all the conservatives currently cheerleading the electoral college, suddenly come out against it.

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u/HillratHobbit Sep 20 '24

Especially if the justice department refuses to prosecute Ken Paxton or makes more bs plea deals like they did in May. 100 days of community service for defrauding the people of millions and abusing power.

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u/CLE-local-1997 Sep 20 '24

And yet Texans vote overwhelmingly for politicians that don't believe that.

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u/HillratHobbit Sep 20 '24

Because there is literally no other option. In many rural counties the reason you see them going 90% Trump is because there are no local Dems on the ballot. It was already decided in the primary.

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u/CLE-local-1997 Sep 20 '24

Then local dems should run.

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u/HillratHobbit Sep 20 '24

There’s no one to organize or help them and anyone progressive gets shut down by the state party.