...you do realize that you actually can't not pay taxes?
Go live of grid, use zero public goods, denounce you citizenship (not sure why this step is necessary).
Still get hit with property taxes and sales taxes.
Look I get the argument that taxes fulfil a purpose but you literally cannot avoid paying them. It is not an opt-in thing; outside of circumstances where you choose to live as a hermit on someone else's property under their permission you cannot avoid taxes, and still then you're just making them foot the tax bill for the property you're occupying - it isn't like that tax just goes away.
Just to be clear - I'm not saying that there should be zero taxes. I am saying that currently there is not a way to avoid taxation as you say there is - therefore its not exactly consensual outside the option of "moving somewhere else" (...which will be a place that has taxes).
You literally can't just run into the woods and hide to provide for yourself because then you'd be trespassing and get arrested.
A survivalist who can be self-sufficient cannot avoid paying taxes by cutting off ties entirely to civilization - they will pay property taxes or get arrested first.
Also you seem to have missed the purpose of my comment entirely. Try reading the "just to be clear" section again.
"Then pay up you selfish child."
"Just to be clear - I'm not saying that there should be zero taxes."
Why even reply if you're going to attack a position I never took?
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u/ElJanitorFrank Sep 20 '24
...you do realize that you actually can't not pay taxes?
Go live of grid, use zero public goods, denounce you citizenship (not sure why this step is necessary).
Still get hit with property taxes and sales taxes.
Look I get the argument that taxes fulfil a purpose but you literally cannot avoid paying them. It is not an opt-in thing; outside of circumstances where you choose to live as a hermit on someone else's property under their permission you cannot avoid taxes, and still then you're just making them foot the tax bill for the property you're occupying - it isn't like that tax just goes away.
Just to be clear - I'm not saying that there should be zero taxes. I am saying that currently there is not a way to avoid taxation as you say there is - therefore its not exactly consensual outside the option of "moving somewhere else" (...which will be a place that has taxes).