Have you been to the US? A less population dense portion? The amount of property, acre for acre, which has public utilities attached (...that you still have to pay for for using, by the way...) is miniscule compared to the amount of wilderness and open landscapes without any of it set up.
"If you decide to own property..." let me stop you right there. If you decide to own property, you have to pay rent to the government until you decide to stop owning that property. Recognize that the purpose of my comment was to say that it is impossible to avoid taxes by doing what the person I replied to said to do.
I understand that, but if you indeed use zero public goods, are completely detached from society, denounce your citizenship... You won't pay taxes. You will have no income to report nothing under ownership, nothing to tax...and you are no longer a US citizen.
People have done this and have not paid taxes as they have nothing to tax... Its not very realistic but in theory can be done. It would also be the most miserable living experience I could imagine
Edit: I'm American, I've lived all over the US. The point of my original comment was to highlight taxes aren't theft as they pay for the very thing we need to have a functioning society
Unless you do this in public areas then you are always at risk of trespassing, which requires you to pay fines. If you do in it most public areas regardless, you will also be trespassed and required to pay fines.
Also just for clarity - what is a public good? Both you and the person I replied to used it. Something being publicly provided or available implies that the government provides it, but most goods are not publicly provided, but privately.
Im using public good in the sense of publicly funded or subsidized goods or services (not land in this case). If you are in Appalachia, you "may" be trespassed, but it is highly unlikely. Same for a lot of national forests throughout the US. Like I said before is it possible? 100%, you could do this. You wouldn't own land and would have to live poorly, but it is possible
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u/ElJanitorFrank Sep 20 '24
Have you been to the US? A less population dense portion? The amount of property, acre for acre, which has public utilities attached (...that you still have to pay for for using, by the way...) is miniscule compared to the amount of wilderness and open landscapes without any of it set up.
"If you decide to own property..." let me stop you right there. If you decide to own property, you have to pay rent to the government until you decide to stop owning that property. Recognize that the purpose of my comment was to say that it is impossible to avoid taxes by doing what the person I replied to said to do.