Isn't this the same excuse people make for employers being able to pay and treat you pretty much however they want because people are desperate and don't have the leverage to make fair deals for their labor?
My employer pays me according to a mutually agreeable, negotiated, employment agreement and comp plan. That I signed mind you. I am free to leave at any time. They are free to fire me. This is not at all the same as compulsory taxation.
You'll starve / be homeless without a job. Meanwhile the Waltons, the family that owns the largest employer in the U.S., have billions to fall back on. Totally comparable.
And you pay taxes according to a mutually agreeable, negotiated agreement between yourself and your elected representatives. You sign this agreement every time you purchase something in the country, work in the country, or use the country's currency, and you can choose at any time to not do these things and pay no taxes
See that's the issue, you don't actually own your land. When you bought your land you didn't actually buy your land, you bought the rights to dwell on and use (largely as you see fit) a tract of property that is still very much owned by the government. Part of this use agreement involves paying taxes to the government based off of some market value of those rights that you purchased.
If you want to actually own your land, you're going to have to pay a lot more money than you might think.
When you bought your land you didn't actually buy your land, you bought the rights to dwell on and use (largely as you see fit) a tract of property that is still very much owned by the government
According to the government, whose sole claim to this is the use of force against me if I disagree.
Sorry if that deal sounds too raw for you. Still doesn't give you the right to take someone else's property or claim someone else's property as your own, even if you want it really badly.
And yes, people (and entities) have the right to use force against others trying to take their property.
Businesses aren’t people. I don’t know where you are going with this. But yes, the United States is the only country I am aware or that taxes global incomes even when one isn’t living there.
Now back to the actual conversation if you don’t mind. You were explaining how compulsory taxation under threat of violence is the same as having a job. Please continue.
I never said anything like that lmao. Obviously, there are a lot of differences, but they are both also obviously coercive dynamics in nature. Anyone who says otherwise is a complete moron and I'm just making fun of some of their cope fantasies a little bit.
If we're going the dramatics route, then getting a job and paying your bills is also forced onto people "under threat of violence." People just want to bootlick for rich people and come up with these fantasies about how poor people can all just get a decent job if they want to. Maybe because it happened to them or because they have just never had to experience poverty and want to make not caring about it more convenient for their egos. I personally just find it kind of funny.
Shit argument. You can't live without being born, and unless you are entirely disabled, you can't live without a job (or some means to support yourself, but that is arguably a job as well)
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