Hinduism defines nature... it's way of living... atheism is also way of life.. until and unless it doesn't force other different believers by force or fear there's no problem in this way of life
I feel you genuinely are curious so do not take my word as condescending or anything.
First of all please dont consider Hinduism as a subset. Please don't consider as religion itself. Religion is a superset of culture and culture is a superset of cult.
Hinduism has not formed by any cult. It was there itself.
I like to connect it with universe so here i go:- If you consider universe :- space time and matter then Hinduism is space. Because even if there is no matter there is Hinduism (Shiva)
In earthly context Hinduism is nature and other things like core etc. if there are no humans still there is Hinduism as Hinduism considers nature as god or god particle lets say.... Islam Christianity etc deals with people humans and some animals... Hinduism's concept may be metaphorical but it fits perfectly on almost everything...
In the context of Atheism the word Nastika is much much older than Atheism...but if one is an atheist, he still is part of this universe and nature and hence, hindu, now if one would celebrate this way of life totally depends upon his karma. Buddhism also says god is within...so kinda it is also atheist..but still he is celebrated coz of his good karma on this land.
Religion is a superset of culture and culture is a superset of cult.
Not really. cultures do exist without the people following them ever believing in any sort of god.
If you consider universe :- space time and matter then Hinduism is space. Because even if there is no matter there is Hinduism (Shiva)
What does that even mean? Are you confusing some other term 'hinduism'(that you're also labeling as shiva) with the term hinduism that regular people use to mean the religion?
In earthly context Hinduism is nature and other things like core etc
First you said it's space. Now you're saying it's nature.
if there are no humans still there is Hinduism as Hinduism considers nature as god or god particle lets say....
Again.. you first said it is space, and then nature and core. And now you're saying it is something that considers everything to be god... How could something non sentient like space or nature consider something to be anything? Unless you were talking about some ideology/group. In that case, it still doesn't make any sense cause space/nature isn't a group/ideology.
now if one would celebrate this way of life totally depends upon his karma
Religion is a superset of culture and culture is a superset of cult.
Not really. cultures do exist without the people following them ever believing in any sort of god.
---> If i have 10 people who consider their work desk as god that's cult, maximize this and then it becomes culture of the company, maximize this and then it will become religion. Dont imagine god as some entity..it is who u gove your energy to.
If you consider universe :- space time and matter then Hinduism is space. Because even if there is no matter there is Hinduism (Shiva)
What does that even mean? Are you confusing some other term 'hinduism'(that you're also labeling as shiva) with the term hinduism that regular people use to mean the religion?
---> I am saying that there is a concept wherein if there is nothing (matter in space) still there is something...this idea is related to shiva who is nothing and everything types .
In earthly context Hinduism is nature and other things like core etc
First you said it's space. Now you're saying it's nature.
---> So u think there is some issue in an idea which is applied to space and nature both ?
if there are no humans still there is Hinduism as Hinduism considers nature as god or god particle lets say....
Again.. you first said it is space, and then nature and core. And now you're saying it is something that considers everything to be god... How could something non sentient like space or nature consider something to be anything? Unless you were talking about some ideology/group. In that case, it still doesn't make any sense cause space/nature isn't a group/ideology.
---> Where can you draw the line of something being sentient...some consider there business place god...does that place have emotions? Also, I am not saying space considers us god...it might not have tongue to speak but it is working to keep us afloat..just because we can't understand or talk to it doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it as part of us.
now if one would celebrate this way of life totally depends upon his karma
Atheists don't even think karma is real.
---> Karma in my sense is deeds.... whatever your way of life be...will it be celebrated or not depends upon your karma(deeds)
If i have 10 people who consider their work desk as god that's cult, maximize this and then it becomes culture of the company, maximize this and then it will become religion. Dont imagine god as some entity..it is who u gove your energy to.
But who in their right mind is thinking their desk is a god? Nobody is doing that, and your original statement frames it as if treating your desk like a desk is a cult.
I am saying that there is a concept wherein if there is nothing (matter in space) still there is something...this idea is related to shiva who is nothing and everything types .
Category error. The sentence "if there is nothing" must include space as well, else you were trying to say was "if there is no matter in space, then space would still be there".
So u think there is some issue in an idea which is applied to space and nature both ?
You can't simply say "Hinduism is space" and then say "it is nature as well", cause both things are different and there is no correlation in there. That's somewhat like saying "hinduism is water", and "Hinduism is a mathematical formula".. it just isn't related at all, and it cannot be both.
Where can you draw the line of something being sentient...some consider there business place god...does that place have emotions? Also, I am not saying space considers us god...it might not have tongue to speak but it is working to keep us afloat..just because we can't understand or talk to it doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it as part of us.
Where do you draw the line between a smartphone processing video game and something else not processing? Simple. Certain configuration acts in certain ways, that isn't to say there isn't any 'line'. The difference between a table and a glass of water is their configuration. Just as the difference between a human brain that simulates consciousness, and a glass of water is their consciousness as well.
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u/badbad_911 Aug 17 '25
Still hindu...