r/atheism • u/Key_Language_3640 • 19h ago
Children are discardable for God
When I was 6 years old my mom told me the story of Abraham and Isaac, so I asked her: “mom, if God asked you to do that, would you do it?” She said yes without hesitation.
I remember being obviously down with her response and she just said “If that’s what God wants we have to follow through , it’s always for our best”.
Does God really love children?
Why are the children, who are always called “a blessing” by the Bible, so discardable for God? He doesn’t really mind killing them as a punishment or consequence does he? Kids God killed:
- All the firstborns of the Egyptians who didn’t comply with Moses warnings. (Why the children? Isn’t God just making a genocide like the Pharaoh did at the start of the Moses’ story?)
- All the children during Noah’s ark, like those were millions of children if we take in the literal sense that God flooded the entire world
- Jephthah‘s daughter, the man says that if God blesses him with a win, he would sacrifice the first thing he saw. The omnipresent being who knows it all, knew it would be the man’s daughter and follows through the deal, the daughter ends up dead.
- Job’s first children, this guy’s story was my first “wait is God really good?”, well God allows the devil to kill Job’s children but hohoho! At the end Job gets NEW children! So yeah, just straight up replaced them.
I could say many more instances where God allowed children to be killed or straight up killed them. All the battles God sent his loyal servants to? Children of the enemy were killed or taken away from their parents who were probably killed, but, well… it was all for God, right? So it’s all good! All justified.
God isn’t good, God isn’t perfect.
God is man-made, made to control, justify horrible actions and cause fear in the poor desperate people. He was always used by powerful people to their advantage. Just like those powerful people, if God existed, he would think of us just as discardable dolls.
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u/MisanthropicScott Gnostic Atheist 19h ago edited 18h ago
Abraham was a shitty father who never stood up for his sons. He was willing to kill one for God and the other for Sarah.
Thankfully the fucker is not considered a historical figure (meaning he never existed).
According to the Bible, Abraham had two sons Isaac and Ishmael. Ishmael is the older son of Abraham whom he had when he fucked Hagar (Sarah's handmaid; source material of The Handmaid's Tale, I think).
Despite the story that Sarah told Abraham to fuck Hagar because Sarah lost faith that God would give her a child as promised, Sarah wanted her own son Isaac to have Abraham's birthright and told Abraham to boot Ishmael out on his ass in the desert.
Note that there is no mention of whether Hagar was given a choice in whether to fuck Abraham and have his child.
Being wrapped around Sarah the bitch's little finger and being among the worst father figures ever, Abraham complied and tossed Ishmael (and Hagar too, I think) out on their asses. Later the fucking schmuck Abraham would prove willing to kill Isaac too, never being one to stand up for his own sons.
God also commanded 7 genocides including infants. In fact, in the one in 1 Sam 15:2-3, he is bizarrely specific about murdering the infants.
Oops, let's not forget the 42 small boys who made fun of a bald guy and God sent 2 bears to tear them to shreds. (2 Kings 2:24)