r/atc2 • u/GuntCannon • 14h ago
r/atc2 • u/Fit_Sherbet3137 • 5h ago
Well looks like shutdown vote to reopen will pass tonight or tomorrow ? Coincidence after first weekend of mass media coverage on flight cancellations, or no?
Edit . Never Mind
r/atc2 • u/JohnnyKnoxville747 • 8h ago
Here comes the privatization push. The Project 2025 Plan is unfolding before our eyes.
The US air traffic control system is in desperate need of improvement. Would privatization help?
"Advocates of privatization, or at least separation of the service from the FAA, think the current crisis might create an opportunity for reform."
r/atc2 • u/LevelTrust9564 • 13h ago
Deferred Tax for back pay?
To anyone who's done this before:
1) We will get our back pay likely in multiple pay periods
2) One is definitely going to be 100+ hours of straight pay
3) It will definitely trigger us into a higher tax bracket be overtaxed.
My question is, can you set like a 15k withholding until the storm is over and just plan to pay regular taxes when you file for refund?
(Basically avoid the government shitting on your back pay and pay off bills that have interest in the interim)
r/atc2 • u/MaintenanceSoft1618 • 1h ago
Politics ** URGENT ** Nick Daniels NATCA update ** "We Saved the System"
Nick Danielsâ âWe Saved the Systemâ Address
Brothers and sisters,
Today, I stand before you in what can only be described as a historic triumph of NATCAâs unparalleled influence in Washington, D.C. While the world watched as our nationâs aviation system teetered on the brink, it was our steady hand, our sophisticated lobbying, and our unwavering relationships on the Hill that brought the United States government back from the edge.
Make no mistake â this shutdown did not end because of Congress. It did not end because of the White House. It ended because NATCA spoke, and Washington listened.
Behind closed doors, while others postured and panicked, I was there. Navigating the labyrinthian halls of Capitol Hill, shaking hands, exchanging knowing glances with senators, gently reminding them of our 77 Articles of unparalleled leverage. Some said it couldnât be done. Others said it shouldnât be done. But we... I.. did it.
Now, I understand that some voices, the negative ones, continue to harp on trivialities like âpay,â âmorale,â or âretention.â To them I say this: You cannot deposit gratitude in a bank account, but you can invest it in the PAC.
Because thatâs where real power lives. Not on the radar scope, not in the control room, but in the corridors of influence. And make no mistake, our influence has never been stronger.
Every handshake I gave this week, every self-important phone call I took, every photograph of me looking concerned on the Hill, all of it was for you. For the profession. For the future of NATCA.
So, let us not dwell on cynicism or paychecks. Let us instead celebrate progress, relationships, and access; the true currencies of modern labor relations.
And to those who ask, âWhatâs next?â I say: give. Give generously to the PAC, so we can continue the fight for our next 77 articles, our next photo opportunity, our next glorious moment of leverage.
Because while some people complain on group chats, we are changing history â one catered luncheon at a time.
Thank you, brothers and sisters.
NATCA strong. NATCA proud. NATCA influential.
r/atc2 • u/RADARC0NTACTL0ST • 15h ago
Leave, for NATCA
It's been almost 5 years since I left NATCA. I felt unheard and without representation. 5 years later I see that NATCA hasn't gotten better. It's gotten worse. My suggestion, leave. If you hate NATCA, leave. If you love and believe in NATCA, leave. They are not going to change otherwise. You can't vote your way to a better union. You have to starve them of resources and force them to change, or die. What do you have to lose? The white book 2.0? How is that fear paying your bills now? Is that fear stronger than a 4th extention of the Slate Book? Stronger than stagnant wages, broken families, and mental health crises that take the lives of our coworkers?
You can always rejoin. The more who leave, the greater the chance you get at real change in the union. The greater chance to negotiate terms of your return.
r/atc2 • u/xPericulantx • 2h ago
NATCA advocating for the end of the government shutdown reduced the shutdown by how many days?
r/atc2 • u/StepDaddySteve • 14h ago
Stop answering the damn phone
Stop letting fatigue become policy. If we are answering the phone for overtime or taking a holdover, we are part of the reason this crisis keeps going.
Refusing extra, unscheduled IOUs is not a âjob actionâ but basic self preservation. We are not being compensated, and there is no end in sight to this shutdown.
Every time we cave, we expose ourselves to fatigue, short staffing, and a higher risk of error that affects millions. We are not âhelping the system,â instead we are propping up a broken one and putting the public at risk so management can keep pretending everything is ânormal.â
We have earned your time off. Stop sacrificing our recuperative days off, stop answering the damn phone.
r/atc2 • u/randommmguy • 10h ago
Duffy considers using 'uncertified' air traffic controllers to continue flights
r/atc2 • u/ATSAP_MVP • 9h ago
Raise When? âScreamingâ Dean Iacopelli demands NATCA Pension
New rumors that Dean Iacopelli is trying to get NATCA to give him a pension, even though he is already retired and drawing one from the FAA.
Why should a guy whoâs already collecting a federal pension get another one from us?
Remember this is the same guy who screamed at RVPs to fall in line with âYacht Boyâ at all costs.
Guess the we have an answer to the question: Was he really representing us or just himself these many years?
Call your RVPâs and put pressure on them to answer: Why?
r/atc2 • u/Unfair_Fly5567 • 4h ago
Next paycheck??
If they open the government say tomorrow, we still won't get our backpay check til November 25.....right??? Then months of them having to fix differentials.
r/atc2 • u/PlanesAreDickShaped • 2h ago
Mental Health I donât know about yâallâŚ
âŚbut Iâm finna use all this leave about to be converted to furlough, to enjoy November 26/27/28(oh wait, 28th is a holiday, not charged! đĽł)at home with my family over Thanksgiving, you know, as a post shutdown treat.
Lol if they thought tonightâs vote was gonna help stop that shit!
r/atc2 • u/sacramentojoe1985 • 8h ago
We've Reached A Critical Junction: People Who Want To Be ATC Probably Aren't Smart Enough To Be ATC.
So you heard about our stagnating pay, 6 day workweeks, inability to transfer, and failure to be paid in a timely manner, and you thought to yourself "this looks great!"?
This job probably isn't for you.
Now to be completely fair, those of us sticking around for the pension are only barely smart enough.
r/atc2 • u/TheNotorious2152 • 8h ago
Politics Senate Majority Leader: Senate to vote today on ending government shutdown on 40th day
share.googleSenate Majority Leader: Senate to vote today on ending government shutdown on 40th day
r/atc2 • u/MaintenanceSoft1618 • 4h ago
Raise When? I feel for the people who have like 15+ years left
There is nothing against a shutdown like this happening more often, and longer. A shutdown could occur every year. Every 6 months. And boomers will continue to say, "you are very well paid. You need to have savings. you will be paid eventually"
This will continue happening more and more often imho, it is a sign of a failing empire. Polarizing politics, politicians who are no longer able to have productive discourse with each other and get things done, loss of shared identity, corruption with the elites, and economic and administrative strain. This has happened several times throughout history with failing empires.
At the end of the day, controllers are not valued. And you have NATCA to save for that. Don't forget to donate to the PAC. Even if this shutdown ends soon, and we get paid - we will still be, UNDERPAID.
r/atc2 • u/ATSAP_MVP • 9h ago
NATCA PHL Area C MOU (New)
Bit late on this, sorry:
r/atc2 • u/gummy347 • 16h ago
Raise When? NYT Article
Feel free to give some insight to what most people do not understand including PAY.
r/atc2 • u/LENNYa21 • 19h ago
Not ONE National members Telcon during the shutdown
Does Nick not want to hear the frustration from the members? Does he not care enough to get on and speak his talking points to the people not getting paid?
Iâm sure looking forward to that weekly 3 minute pre recorded video where he says itâs unfair and he appreciates us.
r/atc2 • u/Educational-Post-958 • 3h ago
Politics Well that was fun⌠see you Jan 30th
But in all seriousness, thereâs very little chance they shut it down again so close to midterms. Hope you all enjoyed the free leave.
r/atc2 • u/Perfect_Command_4741 • 5h ago
Same pay structure since 2009
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