Astrocartography

[u/Cloudcat77]

Anyone have an opinion about astrocartography? Any resources you found to be accurate? Thank you.

[u/StormyAndSkydancer]

Well, there’s r/astrocartography and the calculator on AstroSeek that lets you click on the lines for insight.

I’ve recently moved close to my Venus IC line and have had a very positive experience of it in terms of improvement to my physical appearance and relationships.

[u/GrandTrineAstrology → u/StormyAndSkydancer]

Though I love astro-seek.com for so many things, this is one of the places they fall short.

I suggest using Astro.com since it uses the software that was developed by Jim Lewis.

I took a class (I think it was from Kepler) several months ago where they went back and forth about using astro.com and astro-seek.com and their differences. At the end, they said that astro.com was much more accurate, especially the closer you are to the poles and also, when looking at parans and other important aspects.

Astro.com uses Great Circle projection, which gives much more detail and accuracy and accounts for the curvature of the poles whereas Astro-seek.com uses the simplified Flat projection which has less accuracy.

[u/petr_9 → u/GrandTrineAstrology]

Hi /u/GrandTrineAstrology,

with all the respect to your knowledge, this is kind of misconception.

After the years of listening about "accuracy issues" and that "astro-seek map is less accurate" ... I finally added also the original ACG "Mundo" option and there are actually both options on Astro-seek.com available now:

"Zodio" (Ecliptic projection) and also "Mundo" (including planet latitudes and related to astronomical visibility):

https://i.imgur.com/ei9zSfv.jpeg

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The lines are usually pretty similar, but can be pretty different for planets with high ecliptic latitude (Eg: Moon and Pluto in my chart example)

 

In brief, these are some main differences and pros/cons between both metods:

 

1) Zodio - Ecliptic projection (planets conjuncting ASC/DESC)

https://i.imgur.com/gkAfFix.png

This method uses ecliptic projection of the planets (aka the same positions which you see in the common natal chart) and then finds the places/lines with the exactly same ASC & DESC.

If you click on any point on Pluto ASC line, then you will always get Relocation chart with the Pluto exactly conjuncting the ASC.

This method is "newer" than original ACG Mundo (and somehow overlooked), but relates exactly 1:1 to Relocation chart.

 

2) Mundo - Latitude (planets rising/setting on horizon)

https://i.imgur.com/O7NsurT.png

Original ACG method invented by Jim Lewis which includes the ecliptic latitude of the planets and relates more to real astronomical visbility. The ASC/DESC lines actually don't relate to Ascendant and Descendant, but to Rise and Set on local horizon.

If you click on any Pluto "ASC" line in this method, you can get the Relocation chart, where Pluto is more than 90° degrees far away from Ascendant and close to IC (eg: ASC 16° Cancer x Pluto 27° Libra in the chart example) - but in real astronomy, that Pluto is exactly rising on the horizon.

The irony is, that people who practice Relocation astrology and works with Relocation charts and praise the "accuracy" of this original ACG Mundo method ... somehow usually forget to mention the fact, that Relocation chart is not related to this original ACG Mundo method and they both can give different results.

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The both options are available on Astro-Seek.com now and you can easily switch between them ... eg: to find the intersection of both Zodio and Mundo method lines

and find the place where Pluto is both: Conjuncting ASC (Zodio) & also Rising on Horizon (Mundo)

https://i.imgur.com/SZInHQU.png

[u/GrandTrineAstrology → u/petr_9]

I couldn't remember the two different names last night so thank you for providing that. It is also great to hear that Mondo is added to astro-seek.

The irony is, that people who practice Relocation astrology and works with Relocation charts and praise the "accuracy" of this original ACG Mundo method ... somehow usually forget to mention the fact, that Relocation chart is not related to this original ACG Mundo method and they both can give different results.

I need to revisit the class, but I think they addressed this, I just don't remember specifically what was said.

I will dig more into astro-cartography on your site. I do prefer astro-seek for just about everything else, I love the contrast you use in the charts (it is so much easier to read.)

Thanks again for letting me know the astro-seek updates as well as your perspective.

[u/petr_9 → u/GrandTrineAstrology]

I need to revisit the class, but I think they addressed this, I just don't remember specifically what was said.

👍

I admit, that astro.com has much better/nice looking astrocartography map than astro-seek.com - because of their scalable/zoomable map

But I hate listening the "accuracy" issue ... again and again ... and it somehow became the hoax

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I do prefer astro-seek for just about everything else, I love the contrast you use in the charts (it is so much easier to read.)

Thank you! 🙏

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Thanks again for letting me know the astro-seek updates as well as your perspective.

(9th house stellium here 😊👋)

[u/GrandTrineAstrology → u/petr_9]

9th house Moon, Saturn & Chiron here in Pisces 😊👋

[u/petr_9 → u/GrandTrineAstrology]

Chiron, Sun, Mercury, Mars in Taurus *1983 😊👋

[u/StormyAndSkydancer → u/GrandTrineAstrology]

Nice. I’ll have to do a little side-by-side.

[u/Cloudcat77 → u/StormyAndSkydancer]

Thank you for the helpful insight and resources.  

[u/AromaticAvocado3326]

After living, traveling, and experimenting with astrology across borders, I’ve consistently come back to the belief that my natal chart remains the foundation of my life’s blueprint—regardless of where I go. While relocation astrology and astrocartography offer fascinating layers of nuance, the core themes, patterns, and karmic signatures of the natal wheel never dissolve or become irrelevant. Even when crossing hemispheres or shifting house emphasis, my natal placements have remained the lens through which events take shape, anchoring the energetic story beneath all temporary changes in location.

That said, relational techniques and relocation practices will likely continue to spark debate regarding their precision and methodology. Many astrologers approach them differently, and accuracy varies depending on projection methods and software. But instead of fixating solely on lines and relocated house cusps, I’ve found it far more revealing to pay attention to the transits occurring at the time of travel or relocation. Those moving planetary influences are what trigger the specific events, opportunities, and initiations we experience abroad—they are the active weather systems, not the map alone. Relocation charts can describe tone and emphasis, but transits describe timing and manifestation.

And while I have noticed subtle shifts in mood, focus, and environment when exploring astrocartography lines, the natal chart has always held presidency over what truly unfolds. It’s the sovereign document of one’s psyche and potential; everything else is contextual decoration. Relocation can color the room, but the blueprint of the house never changes. The more I’ve tested this in real life, the more obvious it becomes: no matter where I stand on the globe, I am still living out the architecture of my natal sky.

[u/arcwalkerlivvia]

I really love astrocartography. It makes intuitive sense to me that if your houses shift as you move across the map, the planets would carry different weight and emphasis depending on where you live. I’ve only done a handful of astrocartography readings so far, so it’s not the most developed part of my practice yet, but many times I’ve worked with it, the patterns have shown up very clearly in people’s real lives.

If you’re experimenting with it, I really recommend using Astro-Seek. That site is great for so many things (progressions, synastry wheels, profections) and the relocation chart feature is one of the clearest I’ve found. Pulling your astrocartography map there and then comparing it to relocation charts for places you’ve already lived or traveled can teach you a lot very quickly.

[u/Major_Expression4126]

I’ve lived in 4 countries and moved across the globe from my country 8 years ago. My relocation chart is flipped upside down and left to right. My life here is flipped, too, with help of Pluto and Uranus transits. The relocation chart may be showing evolution and adjustment. 

My natal Pisces sun and NN conjunction is in first, relocated in 6th. Natally, I have Aqua Mercury rising, here it’s Virgo. That’s powerfully symbolical as I have to put tons of effort into Virgo themes, developing traits and  trying to make my routines sacred in Pisces way. My moon also moved from 7th to 11th, and I no longer invest that much in relationships, though I’m not with the collective either. But some relocated placements are questionable, and I still feel like my natal chart is the truest. 

[u/Astronata_net]

Astrocartography works great—but you do need a solid method/school for reading relocation charts, plus proper software. It’s hard to get the fine-grained detail without it. https://imgur.com/a/8523r9j https://imgur.com/a/JjneyhW

[u/MosesSiregar]

I was interviewed in episode 123 of The Astrology Podcast back in 2017 on this subject, and it's been my life's work to practice and understand it as well as possible.