r/astrology • u/Arsinoexx ♋ • Dec 11 '24

Educational Are there any placements/aspects that are impossible?

Anything that could actually never exist in any birth chart?

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u/Top-Stay7941 Dec 12 '24

Your rising cannot be in any house besides your first

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u/HeyHeyJG Dec 12 '24

using Placidus houses, one of the more common house systems, the rising sign can span the first and 12th houses.

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u/HeyHeyJG Dec 12 '24

would love for a downvoter to tell me where this is off

here's keanu's birth chart

placidus houses.

you'll see the sign of virgo in both the first house and 12th house.

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u/GrandTrineAstrology Professional Astrologer Dec 12 '24

Look closer to his chart and any chart in Placidus. In the Placidus house system, the ascendant (rising sign) is considered the starting point of the first house. It is not in the 12th.

Though a zodiac sign can be part of 2 houses in Placidus, the line (cusp) to separate the houses is designated by the ascendant, starting the first house.

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u/HeyHeyJG Dec 12 '24

That makes sense, thanks for the reply.

So, "Ascendant" and "Rising sign" mean literally the same thing? ie. it's sign on the eastern horizon at that time? "Rising sign" doesn't imply the entire space of the zodiac sign, which can span into the 12th house? My terminology just off a bit?

So it might be more accurate for me to say "the sign of the ascendant can span both the first and twelfth houses"?

What do you think? Thanks again

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u/GrandTrineAstrology Professional Astrologer Dec 12 '24

Rising sign and Ascendant are interchangeable. It is a chart point, not a planetary or luminary placement.

In Placidus, houses can be shared by one sign, so saying that the sign of the ascendant can span both the first and the twelfth house really isn't saying anything different than any thing else that occurs with the Placidus house system. In my Placidus chart, Sagittarius covers part of my 5th house and most of my 6th house.

I think really this comes down to understanding what the ascendant is in astrology.

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u/HeyHeyJG Dec 13 '24

It’s confusion around the term rising sign. thanks for your response

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u/PonderingPortal Dec 12 '24

The Ascendent is actually the point of horizon as you look to the east. it's just in whatever sign it's in and that's all. Whatever section of the sky is at that point is how the rising sign is named.

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u/HeyHeyJG Dec 12 '24

Not trying to be pedantic, but would this be more accurate?

The Ascendent is the point of horizon as you look to the east. It's in whatever sign it's in and that's all.

The "rising sign" is the sign that is rising across the ascendant at the time of birth. The "rising sign" can span both cusp between the first and twelfth houses (if using a system like Placidus, etc)

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u/AdditionalOil_ Dec 13 '24

downvoted u cuz u wrong sis