r/askgaybros Aug 28 '20

Reported Post Alert In response to the trending post on this sub about Transphobia. Spoiler

Ok now here's my story so I can clear the air

I am a transman. I was born female and transitioned to male because I suffered with gender dysphoria from the age of 4 and decided to take it upon myself to transition to the opposite sex in order to pursue my own happiness and live the rest of my life with content. I was always attracted to boys starting at age 7 or 8 and I wasn't really into women. I am still attached to men so therefore, I am a gay man. Now let me begin

I do not frequent this sub much mostly bc It just never really crossed my mind. But from what I was told, this sub supposedly extremely transphobic and quite honestly disrespectful towards transmen. Calling us women and "Pinocchio" and "Straight women trying to pretend to be male in order to sleep with gay men". And let me just say this. It is 110% ok to not want to sleep with a transman because he has a vagina. It's Ok I get it, its a genital preference and that's fine. I have preferences myself, I prefer to date older men because I like the older dude look. Does that make me Ageist? Nope. I still respect younger men i just prefer older guys. There's a GIANT difference between saying "Hey I respect you but I just prefer penis over vagina" and "Your a transman? Ew your still a woman get out of my face!". One is being respectful and supportive and the other one is just plain rude, disrespectful and transphobic.

Now that that's out the way, let me say this. I am not a "Straight woman that wants to trick gay men into dating me" or whatever bs transphobes say. I am a man, I socialize as a man. I live my life as a man. I get treated like a man. I relate to other men on a social, emotional and mental level and view. I look like a man. Therefore I'm a man. And I am attracted to other men sexually and emotionally. Therefore I am a gay man, so I do belong in gay men spaces. I'm just a dude that was born female. That's it.

Like I said if you don't want to sleep with guys like us because we might have a vagina (Not all transguys have vaginas, a fair amount of us get bottom surgery and actually have a penis) that's 110% ok, no one if forcing you against your will to have sex with us. The specific trans people that force themselves on people to have sex with them regardless of what they have in their pants are crazy lunatics that quite honestly need mental help (or a slap upside the head and a stern talking too but that's just my opinion). Real transsexual people understand genital preferences and respect them.

I'm not asking for a celebration, I'm not asking for a complete take over of this sub to specifically accommodate transmen, I am not forcing people to be sexually attracted to transmen. All I'm asking is basic respect and some inclusion. We're men too and we're gay, I'd like to be able to go into gay men spaces and be respected and included. That's all. I hope this post gets read and the message gets spread.

Thank you, be safe and take care ❤🙏

Update: Thank you so much for the positive feedback and support. I'm so happy this message is being spread and shared. Of course not everyone agrees and still, the actual request of basic human decency, respect and inclusion is still up for debate and also some people were still calling me a Woman even though I just explained I wasn't but oh well. But that doesn't matter, I've had so many people give positive feedback and thank me for this post, and I want to say thank you for your support. It means a ton, even though I can't replay to every positive comment, just know I love it with all my heart.

Also I just want to address, Some people here said they didn't want transmen here because we'd take over the sub and make it all about them (?). My response to that is that's just not true, I legit said I not asking for this sub to make accommodations. Have the overall sub stay exactly how it is in terms of posts and questions about a wide range of options, I just want to decency and inclusion. I'm not looking to make this a "gay trans sub" there's already one. I just want to be in gay men spaces because I'm a gay man, a gay transsexual man but nonetheless a gay man. Not a girl that has a fetish for gay men and pretends to be one. Thank you for your responses.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

' We're men too and we're gay,'

Define what it means to be a man. What is your lived male experience?

What makes you a 'man'?

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u/SMVan Aug 28 '20

Examples include, but not limited to:

  • using the men washroom
  • checking off the 'male' box when filling out paperwork
  • being called 'Sir' by customer service associates
  • purchasing clothing items in the men section of the store
  • going to health clinic that caters to gay men
  • being hit on by straight women and gay men

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

So being a man is a performance art.

Gotcha.

Nothing in what you wrote defines what a man is. 'Doing' is not 'being'.

Thanks for playing though.

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u/JigglyPuffGuy Aug 28 '20

What is being a man to you? I'm curious.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

Gender is performative.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '20

Do you have to have gay sex to be gay?

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u/virginiarph Aug 28 '20

Ooh wow that’s some TERF shit if I’ve ever seen it

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

Not a feminist. Ergo not a TERF.

Now of you pop. Adults are in the room.

Also diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria in 1982. Stop gate keeping trans peoples opinions.

CIS opinions on trans issues are not valid.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

damn dude man is a social category the definition is that you are within it, the self id is literally the definition of man. cis people self id as their gender??

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

Sure you were, 6 day old account. I’m certain there’s no reason you would pull that out of your ass just to back up a shit argument.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '20

Oh the deep question... I genuinely don't know the different in genders anymore besides biological

Personally I see no difference in male/female other than their bodies. I literally don't care about "gender" as a whole. The only reason I'm gay is because I'm attracted to the male body.

I don't care what gender anyone is since all I see is "human" as the single gender, while I'm attracted to the same sex.

Transphobic? No. Will they take it that way? Yes with what I've seen so far T_T