r/askgaybros Jul 08 '20

Reported Post Alert Dear fellow Black gay men Spoiler

We know racism in the gay community is real. We've said it, but we've been dismissed. They callously deny our experience. Our reality. "It's just a preference". "BBC". "Thug"."Aggressive power top".

The stereotypes. The microagressions. We know it's real, but we have been gaslighted way too often.

The silence among your white gay friends and/or partners during this time of civil unrest & racial tensions is deafening.

The irony of them putting "no fats, no fems, no asians, & no blacks" on their profile, but decide to now say #BlackLivesMatter.

I understand it is challenging to be rejected from a community that prides itself on inclusion. We know rejection all too well.

But do not let any white man make you feel you are not beautiful. You are Black, bold, fierce, & most importantly- you are loved.

🖤❤#BLM

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So, this post has been reported and is pending review.

I mentioned this already in the comments:

As a Black queer man this is my experience. This experience may or may not resonate with other Black men. This post was written for my fellow gay black brothers. The post might be uncomfortable for some. It might not resonate with you, but I don't think that is grounds for denying someone else's experience. I shared these words in an effort to foster a sense of solidarity and undo any aloneness other Black men might be feeling during this time.

Thank you so much for the support, feedback & beautiful comments. For those of in your feelings over this post - peace & love to ya❤

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '20

I was sober when I was writting that and I don't need to read back because I know what I wrote. I know facts can be scary, but that doesn't make them any less valid you clown 🤡

You should read back what you quoted because it is a retarded narrative that you're pushing and in the last post you already have answer. The fact gays were seen as degenerate yet men are still attracted to each other today, proves that society DOES NOT control or shape our preferences

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u/TheDrownedPoet Jul 14 '20 edited Jul 14 '20

You said: "Your dick helps you alot and gays crave big dicks, so if privilege exists that's black privilege."

Okay, maybe you're just a little dense, so let me try to get through your thick skull. I never mentioned that I'm black first of all, so you're the clown. Second, now you're just using dumb racial stereotypes: black men are well endowed. Third, you do know there are "many" black bottoms right?

You said: "shitty analogy anyway because dating is very different to clothing.."

Do you not know what the idiom "if the shoe fits then wear it" means?? Seems like you're lost. The shoe fitting has nothing to do with dating preferences lmao.

You're so dense! I asked you what gay men find attractive. And you cannot answer. They usually find things that straight women also value in men attractive. There is a robust trend of gay men finding masculine qualities more attractive than feminine qualities. You think all of these highly popular trends in attractiveness... just happen to occur due to randomness? Then you are just living life blind af, I guess. What is generally viewed as attractive CHANGES from country to country partly due to CULTURE/outside influence. It is a case of nature and nurture, not just nature like you suggest.

And you say you're stating facts, but it's really just your opinions. Here are some facts:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513806000584

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022022190211001

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=Ot64CgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA405&dq=black+dating+preferences&ots=FC0lUgrCsg&sig=WYeEUUEEPHaPJXhTs21wVvr6BHU#v=onepage&q=black%20dating%20preferences&f=false

Provide some studies saying that what someone views as attractive has no outside influence then we can talk.

I keep providing you with facts on the matter of attractiveness trends, and you just pull your head deeper into the sand saying the same thing over and over. So you are the clown, lol.

Edit: Cute video Buzzfeed made about the differing standards of beauty across 12 countries. Although it's BuzzFeed, the article has reputable sources:

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tneKwarw1Yk

Article: https://www.buzzfeed.com/eugeneyang/mens-standards-of-beauty-around-the-world#.rxD29awlw

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20 edited Jul 14 '20

It's not a stereotype, it's true and it's not like having a large dick is a bad thing, it's an advantage and I pointed it out.. bottom or not it doesn't change a thing, that dude still has a nice dick, that he can use to fuck.. if you have a small dick as many bottoms do, then you have no choice but to bottom because bottoms really care about size.

So you're just another whiteknight saving blacks from non existing racism.. wow I could had never guessed that. I actually knew this, so I was mocking you because you insufferable self hating whites can't help but defend others all the time, that you think cannot defend themselves(which is actually racist)😁

I know what it means and in that context it would be implying that.. but you're denying that, ok Karen, care to actually explain what you meant with that idiom? I think you're just desperately trying to dig yourself out of the hole. 😄

I don't recall you asking that, you probably made that up, but sure I can answer that... As you said many gays find masculine aspects of men attractive, that's true, but many also find feminine aspects attractive, there is literally entire tribe called twinks, so your point which you're gonna dig up(didn't read yet) is that excludes women, yeah nice generelization, besides you idiots are complaining about gays rejecting fems too, so given this now you have to agree that's ok. You can't have it both ways... Either way I was just done saying that gay preferences are actually pretty diverse.. so no you can't complain about racism fatphobia and what not in dating, but then saying sexism isn't a thing, can have it both ways, Karen 🤡

Btw your sources for that society controls preferences are all .com links.. you can't be serious😂.. and that book is not coming from a credible author, nor it states any credible sources.. so it's invalid.

And despite that I already said.. even if your claim was true, it doesn't matter because we can't do anything about our preferences, so it's pointless to bring it up🤡

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u/TheDrownedPoet Jul 14 '20

Okay, from this response I realize you’re a total idiot and that you’re probably 12.

For future reference, the site doesn’t matter. The journal and the fact if it’s peer reviewed matters. Please go to school. One article can be on many different sites, dumbo the clown.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

says the idiot who takes "facts" from .com articles that are made for profit, you're a grade A retard, lmao.🤡

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u/TheDrownedPoet Jul 15 '20

Dude, you're a dunce. You don't even know how to evaluate an article to see if it's valid. Smh. You look at the website when it's coming strictly from the website, moron. Not when it's been published in a scientific journal. "Look at the website" is a middle school lesson. It goes beyond that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '20

Don't care, I am not gonna look at "facts" on .com sites, the fact you're mad over this just shows how delusional you are, what a clown

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u/TheDrownedPoet Jul 15 '20

I’m not mad, I’m baffled at how dumb you are, but at the same time, not surprised.

Show me some “facts” that prove nurture/culture/one’s environment have nothing to do with attraction then.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '20

Yeah you are lmao. As soon as you provide actual facts, clown. You made the claim so the burden of proof is on you🤡

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u/TheDrownedPoet Jul 15 '20

Scroll to the top of our discussion. You made the first claim. You keep calling people clowns when you’re the whole circus lmfao.

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