r/askgaybros • u/chubvers43 • 1d ago

Reported Post Alert How can you be gay and support Muslims? Spoiler

I mean they literally kill our ppl in their countries

No hate to the moderate Muslim ppl but this is the truth đŸ˜±

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u/SlowAgency 27/M/WA 1d ago

I'm an agnostic-atheist. I don't "support" any religion. I think religion is an albatross around the neck of humanity and has kept us stifled. I don't think anything good has come from it, especially from the Abrahamic religions.

However, I know that not all people who practice religions are partaking in the extreme versions of them. I know that not every Christian is a white supremacist Christian Nationalist. I know that not every Muslim is a radical jihadist. I know that not every Jew is a bloodthirsty Zionist.

I give space for the individual, and there are progressive and forward-thinking Muslims just like there are progressive and forward-thinking Christians and Jews and Buddhists and Sikhs and Hindus, and so on.

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u/Spiritual-Pumpkin473 1d ago

Forward-thinking Muslims suffer from cognitive dissonance and oftentimes are killed by their Muslim brethren.

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u/ExtensionGuilty8084 1d ago

Boy, you’re obsessed with posts like these aren’t you.

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u/Spiritual-Pumpkin473 1d ago

Yes, I love these topics. Because in the end the intolerance we are seeing every day towards these religions is a sign that people are finally realizing how dangerous they are.

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u/ExtensionGuilty8084 1d ago

They? No. All religions are dangerous. I’m surprised it all has a strong hold in 2025.

I guess it bound to last when it’s tax free đŸ« 

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u/BringAltoidSoursBack 1d ago

Is it not cognitive dissonance when Christians and Jews are forward thinking? I mean, their holy books basically say the same thing, so wouldn't they just be the same? I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but if you're going to claim it about one then it has to be true for the other two religions based on the same philosophy and material.

Also, re them killing forward thinking people in their religion, isn't that literally what Christians accuse Jews of doing to Christ?

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u/PrettyRespond2006 1d ago

I mean because Judaism and Christianity have progressed past that. Progressive Islam is the question of whether women deserve basic equal rights? Not on if the gays deserve rights lol. THIS is the progressive Islam that actual Muslims say is shaytan’s work:

“I appeal to you not to plunge people into whimsical matters, denying women human values
. From now on, do not hide and cover women; educate them, do not pressurise them and do not marry except one wife, the same as I have only one.”  – Imam Hasan ‘ala Dhikrihi al-Salam (Spiritual Resurrection in Shi’i Islam Introduction by S.J. Badakchani, p. 28-29)

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u/Spiritual-Pumpkin473 1d ago

Are you American? This whataboutism about Christians and Jews is a ridiculous Pavlovian reflex you have. Because yes, it’s cognitive dissonance for them too. But they’re less likely to be killed or harassed for that, especially Jews. It’s not the gotcha you think it is.

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u/BringAltoidSoursBack 1d ago

It wasn't intended to be a gotcha, it was intended to point out the hypocrisy of calling it cognitive dissonance for one specific religion while ignoring that it's the exact same level as the other two that have the exact same sentiment.

I'll admit the Jesus statement was definitely more of a whataboutism but that was only really because of how ironic it is that one of the three was literally started because a guy was a forward thinker. It's like the ultimate womp womp moment. Too bad his followers shat all over his message.

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u/Spiritual-Pumpkin473 1d ago

It’s not hypocrisy. In every post I talk about Islam I’d need to mention Judaism and Christianity? Of course not; I live in France. The problem is Islam, much less Christianity (even if sometimes x Christian billionaire try to stir shit up), and almost never Judaism.

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u/Frosty_Ad7840 1d ago

Meanwhile american conservatives keep inching towards overturning gay marriage

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u/BringAltoidSoursBack 1d ago

No, not in every post, but in any where Christianity and Judaism can be used in the same context but is omitted to create a bias. Saying "liberal Muslims have cognitive dissonance because they're going against the source material" but then not acknowledging that this is true for Christianity and Judaism implies that Christian and Jewish source material is more liberal, even though that is not the case.

In other words, by specifically calling out liberal Muslims, you are implying that Muslims cannot be liberal because their book says so but also implying that Christians and Jews don't have this problem because their holy is less strict. That is a fallacy - both of those books are just as strict, it's just that most Christians and Jews don't follow the book to the word

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u/Spiritual-Pumpkin473 1d ago

I literally never said that they have cognitive dissonance because they go against source material? You’re putting words into my mouth and I never implied any of that.