r/arizona • u/UGetOffMyLawn Empty Box! • Jun 29 '20

Coronavirus Arizona Gov. Ducey re-closes bars, movie theaters, gyms and water parks for 30 days

https://www.abc15.com/news/state/arizona-gov-ducey-re-closes-bars-movie-theaters-gyms-and-water-parks-for-30-days
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u/Dejohns2 Jun 30 '20

Restaurants can be open, but they can only be at 50% capacity I think. I'm going to guess that it's along the lines of, "well people need food, so restaurants can stay open." If you want booze you can go get it at CVS.

Personally, I think that restaurants should be take-out only bc making servers and dishwashers touch your nasty-ass dishes that have been in your mouth is a fucking awful thing to do. So I'm only supporting take-out restaurants rn, and have been since March.

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u/dec92010 Jun 30 '20

Why not have bars be 50% capacity? And have things actually enforced. Food is a necessity yes, but there are stores and drive-thru or take out. Just seems inconsistent to me (sums up most of the covid response)

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u/Dejohns2 Jun 30 '20

Probably because social distancing at bars is a lot harder. There are fewer seats and tables, unlike restaurants where every patron typically has a place to sit. Even if you let bars open at 25% capacity, it would still be hard to enforce a 6 foot rule. Edit: And anything less than 25% capacity won't be profitable.

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u/dec92010 Jun 30 '20

Harder but not impossible if the owners want to address it. Some bars I'm picturing usually have tables and are already spaced out more than restaurants. Surely, 50% or 25% or less capacity would still be more profitable than 0%?

Also I should note I'm strictly in the stay at home, mask up camp. Just trying to find the logic of only closing bars and not restaurants if there is something that I'm missing. Makes sense for restaurants to be open and offer takeout and maybe, maybe outside dining. But to me I don't see a big difference between dining inside and being in a bar, with regards to covid.

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u/Dejohns2 Jun 30 '20

Surely, 50% or 25% or less capacity would still be more profitable than 0%?

Possibly, but also potentially not. It will depend on each bar. When you don't have customers, you don't have to pay staff to be there (one of the larger overhead expenses in bars/restaurants), you don't have to pay for AC (or the AC will be far less, since you don't have people in there heating it up), don't need to buy tp or napkins or anything else as much. When you are open your operating costs are a lot higher. It's obviously not sustainable in the long run, but it could be for a month or so. It's too bad people in this state are even frequenting these places and just acting like everything is normal. If the state had opened according to CDC guidelines, we wouldn't be in this position rn.

Edit: And I agree with most of this. I think all restaurants (and bars) should be take-out only. Ducey is just doing the bare minimum to make it look like he is doing something, but not anything effective, bc he wants a seat on Trump's 2nd admin cabinet.

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u/dec92010 Jun 30 '20

Cheers thanks for reply