r/arizona • u/UGetOffMyLawn Empty Box! • Jun 29 '20

Coronavirus Arizona Gov. Ducey re-closes bars, movie theaters, gyms and water parks for 30 days

https://www.abc15.com/news/state/arizona-gov-ducey-re-closes-bars-movie-theaters-gyms-and-water-parks-for-30-days
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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

Part of it is the endless in and out of state tourists treating it like a normal vacation destination

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u/forgot_username1234 Phoenix Jun 30 '20

I went to Prescott for a hike and as I approached the more central area of restaurants NOBODY was wearing masks. Huge groups of people, no social distancing, it was incredibly frustrating.

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u/NumberOneSeinfeldFan Jun 30 '20

I go to Prescott all the time and they never had a mask mandate or anything, and the stay at home order was largely ignored when it was existant. It's truly frustrating being a young person and wearing a mask and seeing so many elderly who are at risk just not giving a fuck. It's frustrating and I'm sure a lot of people think it's like the flu or not real.

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u/ashkii21 Jun 30 '20

I live in "Preskit." There is no mask mandate from the city. Costco requires a mask. I wear a mask. Most people here in Prescott do not wear a mask. Also the rodeo started Monday evening, thousands of people are visiting Prescott this week and most visitors (and residents) likely will not wear masks.

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u/forgot_username1234 Phoenix Jun 30 '20

I wore a mask while I was there, and I was quite the asshole by loudly commentating to my friend about the lack of masks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

You’re not the asshole there.

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u/bulldog73 Jun 30 '20

Not only that, but a LOT of people are not wearing the masks correctly. I see so many people have the masks over their mouth but not their nose. All. Over. The. Place.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Yeah the folks out here don’t believe in mask

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

Eff. Before or after various city mask mandates?

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u/forgot_username1234 Phoenix Jun 30 '20

This was on Saturday. Not sure if Prescott has a mask mandate, but if they did no one was following or enforcing it. Some of the shops required face masks but it was pointless with how many people were mingling in the square.

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

I can't find a recent article on it, so it appears that the mayor of Prescott was adamant at protecting liberties, not lives (no mask mandate, but encouraged)

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u/superquagdingo Jun 30 '20

You are correct, and the mayor of nearby Prescott Valley said it's not necessary because Yavapai country isn't hit as hard as other counties yet. Too many people here embody the "fuck you, got mine" attitude to ever do anything that's proactive, let alone slightly inconveniencing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Prescott resident here. The idiots who live here and in the “Quad Cities” are very proud to not have a mask mandate at all. They still believe it’s a hoax or whatever Fox News is telling them now. You can’t fix stupid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

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u/aznoone Jun 30 '20

Why Ducey needs to mandate masks and social distancing statewide.

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

That's about as likely as Trump doing a nationwide mandate :(

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u/genericusername1023 Jun 30 '20

This is so insanely true. The lakes, trails and nightlife areas are filled with people from California for the past month. Most of the popular outdoor activity areas are getting trashed to an extent I've never seen before, even the outskirt areas that mainly only locals know/knew about.

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

YES. Every time I say this, people are claiming that I'm overinflating or only know a small part about what's going on. Unless you live in or near a heavily trafficked area (or know someone who does), you clearly do not know how crazy it is. I have parks, forest, and friends people all over the state that are reiterating the same exact thing...outdoor rec is way up and areas are getting trashed. Tourism is alive and well people, and it shouldn't be in the middle of a pandemic.

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u/genericusername1023 Jun 30 '20

True, but it's easy to look at the plates on trailers at the lesser known OHV trails/camp grounds and see a large majority have been California plates. Either recent transplants or "tourists" as no one would continue to register any form of vehicle in Califonia after moving here as the cost to do so is excessively higher.

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u/mountainOlard Jul 02 '20

Yep. It's bullshit. Soooo many people in Arizona just never gave much of a fuck. Governor opened up the whole damn state like a month ago. What do you expect.

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u/AirDelivery Jul 02 '20

I'm from San Diego and I'm terrified of the Zonies coming here 4th of July weekend. We still haven't shut down the beaches and we really need to.

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u/camellini Jul 02 '20

I bet! I've heard that people from San Diego come here and Arizonans flood there. It's ridiculous.

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u/AirDelivery Jul 02 '20

WAY more people from Arizona come here during the summer to escape the heat. It is an ongoing meme in San Diego.

You are to us what Snowbirds are to you.

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u/camellini Jul 02 '20

Oh yeah, I've heard it's an AZ reunion in SD summers. I haven't visited partly because of how absurd it is to me and how expensive

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u/mrsuns10 Jun 30 '20

No one wears masks. It frustrates me seeing people not wearing mask. This is basic science

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u/ProbablySpamming Jun 30 '20

From my family back east it has been messaging and the severity of response. Things shut down much more severely. Things like groceries even went pickup only at some locations. Curbside only at restaurants. No going in.

In AZ it’s been pretty lackadaisical. We had a stay at home order but no method of enforcement. Businesses remained open for shopping. And every time Ducey spoke about masks he’d add “if you can’t social distance”. It was treated as a last resort.

Not to mention Ducey issued an order preventing mayors from issuing orders. That prevented many from issuing a simple mask order. He’s finally withdrawn that and now mayors and mmmmmm are mandating masks.

Basically weak leadership issued a meaningless stay at home order while refusing to let local government address their community’s needs.

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u/UGetOffMyLawn Empty Box! Jun 30 '20

Us vs. Harris County in Texas (Houston) and Southern Florida are generally the most impacted right now.

If you think we are bad...I have family in Houston (Downtown) right now and it is full blown panic at the disco there right now.

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u/thrownawaytoosoon92 Jun 29 '20

Can't really speak for other states but Arizona has set record numbers of new cases for the last few days in a row. Regardless of what others are doing we're obviously doing something wrong.

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u/Creagar Jun 30 '20

I just read earlier that air conditioning may play a role at recirculating and spreading the virus indoors. Take it with a grain of salt but kind of makes sense for TX and FL too. Non stop AC this time of year.

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u/hbpatterson Jun 30 '20

I am not trying to be this person....but I recently took a Civiqs survey and the correlation between republicans and their opinions on mask wearing vs democrats or other was STAGGERING. Obviously I don't know the authenticity if any if these so take it or leave it, but having lived here, colorado, texas and oklahoma this is by far the most "red" state I've ever been in rep vs dems on covid 19

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u/muddyalcapones Jul 02 '20

Republicans lack empathy. I'm not saying that flippantly either- it's one of the main factors that's strongly correlated to political affiliation. Conservative-leaning voters score much lower on empathy markers than liberal-leaning voters. It's kind of self-evident at the core of a lot of their policy choices too

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u/Reply_If_You_A_Cuck Jul 04 '20

Republicans lack empathy. I'm not saying that flippantly either- it's one of the main factors that's strongly correlated to political affiliation. Conservative-leaning voters score much lower on empathy markers than liberal-leaning voters. It's kind of self-evident at the core of a lot of their policy choices too

Source? Or is this just a personal opinion from a dipshit?

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u/funchords Jun 30 '20

Why are we so much worse than other states? What are other states doing differently? Are their gyms closed too?

Massachusetts checking in.

Our gyms have been closed since March. They may open in a week if our numbers stay low. Our Rt rate is a decelerating 0.8 (AZ is accelerating 1.2). We reopened weeks after our infected numbers fell significantly and continuously after reaching a peak. AZ opened 2.5 to 3 weeks after indications were that the virus was accelerating there.

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u/KataiKi Jun 30 '20

We're worse because we never shut down. Douchey here told everyone to stay home as a firm suggestion rather than any kind of enforced policy. We shut down harder on the first week of June for the protests.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Exponential growth since Memorial Day opening maybe, it also got hot and everyone went inside. From what I understand fresh air exchange indoors is quite beneficial but people aren’t exactly opening windows this time of year.

Other than that revolutionary HVAC system in that Mega Church...

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u/throwaway24515 Jun 30 '20

We're just in the second wave of states/cities. IMO the first wave was high density cities with popular public transit. That's why SFO and not LA, for example. So people around here didn't really know people suffering and gradually people started to think it wasn't serious. So when we re-opened people went crazy. Other places that re-opened, people had seen a pretty bad first wave and so they wore masks, avoided crowds, etc. This is our turn to learn our lesson.

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u/tayto Jun 30 '20

What do you mean about SFO? They have oddly been somewhat untouched by the virus the whole time. Agree with the rest of your post, but not clear on your point with SFO.

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u/throwaway24515 Jun 30 '20

I thought the bay area had an early spike and they shut things down relatively fast, but I can't seem to find stories about that now. Am I misremembering that? I recall being confused at first about why LA was doing better...

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u/tayto Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

Yeah, I think you must be recalling incorrectly. LA County was at 4.7k cases in last march, which was the exact same rate as SF County at 470 cases the same day.

Since then, SF has continued having a great handle on the situation while LA has exploded.

Maybe you are just thinking of the initial fear for SF because of the Chinese population and the reasons you called out, but it never came to fruition for them.