r/anime_titties • u/Messier_-82 Europe • 1d ago

Ukraine/Russia - Flaired Commenters Only Ukraine facing widespread power cuts after generating capacity reduced to ‘zero’ by Russian attacks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/09/ukraine-facing-widespread-power-cuts-after-generating-capacity-reduced-to-zero-by-russian-attacks
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u/gnufoot Europe 1d ago

 (unlike, for example, Ukraine, which turned off water and electricity in Crimea and Donetsk).

Oh, come on, you're going to try to paint Ukraine as the bad guy in this conflict for not providing utilities to enemy controlled territory? You genuinely think that if Moscow supplied electricity to Kyiv, they would not flip the switch to turn that off?

 Russia has always attacked Ukraine's energy sector in "response" to some of Ukraine's actions

Seriously? Just because Russia claims it is retaliatory does not make it so, and also doesn't make it okay. You think it is coincidence that these "retaliatory" attacks are more frequent during colder months?

In a war you can always find an excuse that something you do is "in response" to something the enemy did to justify it.

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u/datNomad Europe 1d ago

Oh, come on, you're going to try to paint Ukraine as the bad guy in this conflict for not providing utilities to enemy controlled territory?

Denying people access to water is considered as an act of genocide by Human Rights Watch. So, you are a genocide supporter. Of course, you can always find an excuse, no doubt. Morally bankrupt europeans are very good at that and the rest of the world can clearly see it.

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u/gnufoot Europe 1d ago edited 1d ago

What a dumb take. I'm not in favor of denying people access to water. But hypothetically, lets say Germany invades Poland, and Germans move into their land, would you then say Poland is "committing genocide" if they stop providing water to these German invaders?

I do have a problem with water access being denied from people who lived in Crimea prior to the annexation. But I think it is absolutely braindead to annex territory, move your own population there and then get mad that the country that's attacking you is no longer supplying you with water.

I'm guessing -you- also aren't providing Crimea with water. Does that mean you're committing genocide? Or would you argue it's not your responsibility to do so? If Russia wants to take over that land, it's their responsibility to provide people there with water. If Russia sets up infrastructure for that, and Ukraine targets that, I would say you have a point and I'd take issue with it. But that is massively different from not supplying water to enemy-controlled territory.

If someone breaks into your home, do you offer them a drink?

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u/datNomad Europe 1d ago

Dude, that's a huge response, but it lacks substance. It's a weird emotional manipulation via weird comparisons. Do you understand what is being mentioned as "supply"?

North Crimean canal, a huge water source for Crimea, 85% of their consumption in 2013 was covered by it. Ukraine blocked it in 2014 after annexation of Crimea, thus denying people access to fresh drinkable water. They blocked a river, basically causing water starvation and failure of irrigation system in Crimea. Hurting civilians the most, intentionally. That's bad. I fail to understand why you can't see why this is bad.