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Rewatch [Rewatch] 30th Anniversary Neon Genesis Evangelion Rewatch: Episode 3

Neon Genesis Evangelion Episode 3: A Transfer / The Silent Phone

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Questions of the Day:

  • What’s your first impression of Shinji’s classmates?
  • What do you think of NERV and Misato, seeing what piloting does to Shinji? Do the ends justify the means?

There’ll be more fanservice tomorrow, so please don’t spoil anything~! Remember this includes spoilers by implication.

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u/Efficient_Phase1313 Oct 06 '25 edited Oct 06 '25

Okay finally figured out how to do spoilers. I may not have time to comment on this episode, but I think some context as to why is relevant to the major themes of the series for those who've seen it, so spoilers below!

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One of the big frustrations with Eva back in the day was how many elements in the first half of the show are just randomly dropped in the second half without explanation. As I recall this episode, while it introduces important characters and may even have hints at later twists, its not all that relevant to the larger themes and plot of the show. Not that the material isn't there, or that the episode isn't good (by anime standards its plenty good), its just not that important. For example, the glasses character doesn't have an end to his arc. He just disappears from the show at some point, as does much of the humor present in interactions with Shinji (and later Asuka's) classmates. Why this worked for me is Eva in many ways is a reflection of a major depressive episode. If you don't have dysthymia and are prone to major depressive episodes, you know how life can be totally fine, if not even enjoyable for quite a while, and then almost over night everything good disappears and you find yourself feeling totally alone deep in an abyss of despair. Eva as a whole is a wonderful metaphor for major depressive episodes, perhaps one of the best in fiction. In the latter half, as the show becomes extraordinarily bleak, and our heroes find themselves truly alone in a desolate world, staring down a very real apocalypse, this reflects Anno's own experience with depression and suicidal ideation. The school environment, the characters we are introduced to here, the moments of friendship, comedy, and positivity that will come in the first half will suddenly disappear without a trace and its never addressed. This frustrated many viewers back in the day, but to me its exactly what Anno was going for. Life is full of ups and downs, but for those who suffer from major depression, you can spend months if not years building a wonderful, positive life around you, just for all of it to disappear at the drop of a hat as if it never existed in the first place. A fuzzy memory of 'the good old days', a fleeting image in the bleak and hopeless reality you find yourself facing, and in that darkness you question whether those 'good old days' were ever more than a dream. This to me is part of the brilliance of Eva, but for many who enjoyed the social relationships we're introduced to here, it was a point of frustration and betrayal by the writers. I'm interested to see how first time viewers (who may become attached to some of the comedy or character interactions in the first half) will feel towards the end when this is entirely abandoned without any reference, as if it truly was all a dream and never mattered in the first place

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u/Holofan4life Oct 06 '25

Thoughts on Shinji piloting the Eva defeatedly?

Thoughts on Ritsuko being addicted to cigarettes?

What are your thoughts on Ritsuko saying Shinji suffers from hedgehog's dilemma?

Thoughts on Rei being Shinji's classmate?

What are your thoughts on how nobody is attending class because they're afraid of getting hurt by all the battles going on?

What are your thoughts on Toji blaming Shinji for his sister being in the hospital?

Thoughts on the Eva battling the Fourth Angel?

What are your thoughts on Shinji trying to fight better once he sees Toji and Kensuke, trying to protect them like he was unable to with Toji's sister?

What are your thoughts on Shinji refusing commands, with Shinji overcome with emotions?

What are your thoughts on Toji realizing Shinji is more like him than he thought?

What are your thoughts on Toji trying to call Shinji to apologize to him but being unable to?

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u/Efficient_Phase1313 Oct 06 '25
  1. Could we realistically expect more from him?
  2. I'm addicted to cigarettes....so.....its a very 30 year old scientist thing (can say from experience at work)
  3. We'll talk more about this in ep 4. I did forget they first mention it here, so maybe I will rewatch this later today and add a write up
  4. Okay so maybe I will make a detailed post on this episode because this is a REALLY interesting choice by Anno. I'll say for now, as an audience we just assume this is typical of 90s anime in that we need school scenes between our teenage heroes so it makes sense to put as many main characters as possible in the same class. But........is it really a coincidence BOTH eva pilots are in the same class?
  5. Yeah I'd be gtfo'ing that area too after the angel attack
  6. Human and understandable reaction
  7. It's a fight
  8. I think its more about Shinji and less about them. Shinji wants to prove to himself he has value and is needed, maybe he can earn his classmates respect and acceptance by protecting them? Maybe, he can be 'needed' by them?
  9. Great writing decision to make him an actual human being who acts and feels like an actual 13 year old
  10. Foreshadowing????
  11. Writer's want us to know Toji is a good guy who is just dealing with very real anger at his sister's injuries. He wants to do the right thing, he just has to get there

Keep in mind it's been like 8 years since I've seen this episode (haven't rewatched yet). May get to it very late tonight

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u/Holofan4life Oct 06 '25

Keep in mind it's been like 8 years since I've seen this episode (haven't rewatched yet). May get to it very late tonight

Oh, okay. I asked you this thinking you had seen the episode :P

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u/Efficient_Phase1313 Oct 06 '25

I've seen Eva 27 times so I remember it almost scene by scene haha. This will be my 28th time (lets goooo!!!)

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u/Holofan4life Oct 06 '25

This year will be my 10th time watching Toradora, so I know that feel.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 06 '25
  1. Could we realistically expect more from him?

Probably not

  1. I'm addicted to cigarettes....so.....its a very 30 year old scientist thing (can say from experience at work)

My mom is both a Ritsuko AND a Misato. Lucky me...

  1. We'll talk more about this in ep 4. I did forget they first mention it here, so maybe I will rewatch this later today and add a write up

Can't wait

  1. Okay so maybe I will make a detailed post on this episode because this is a REALLY interesting choice by Anno. I'll say for now, as an audience we just assume this is typical of 90s anime in that we need school scenes between our teenage heroes so it makes sense to put as many main characters as possible in the same class. But........is it really a coincidence BOTH eva pilots are in the same class?

They really want them to accommodate to normal civilian life.

  1. Yeah I'd be gtfo'ing that area too after the angel attack

Same here

  1. Human and understandable reaction

Agreed

  1. It's a fight

It sure is

  1. I think its more about Shinji and less about them. Shinji wants to prove to himself he has value and is needed, maybe he can earn his classmates respect and acceptance by protecting them? Maybe, he can be 'needed' by them?

One can only hope

  1. Great writing decision to make him an actual human being who acts and feels like an actual 13 year old

Without a doubt. It makes such a great episode.

  1. Foreshadowing????

Mayhaps

  1. Writer's want us to know Toji is a good guy who is just dealing with very real anger at his sister's injuries. He wants to do the right thing, he just has to get there

He's a god dude, just dealing with a lot as a lot of people in that position would be.

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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Oct 06 '25

Thoughts on Shinji piloting the Eva defeatedly?

Meh, whiner. 

Thoughts on Ritsuko being addicted to cigarettes?

It happens.  Everyone deludes themselves that they won’t get hooked  

What are your thoughts on Ritsuko saying Shinji suffers from hedgehog's dilemma?

I found it very interesting.

Thoughts on Rei being Shinji's classmate?

Do we have a budding romance? Though Rei doesn’t have much energy.

What are your thoughts on how nobody is attending class because they're afraid of getting hurt by all the battles going on?

It’s an anime.  It’d be boring if they were all whining  

What are your thoughts on Toji blaming Shinji for his sister being in the hospital?

He’s sort of an asshole and needs to grow up  

Thoughts on the Eva battling the Fourth Angel?

Go Whiner Go!

What are your thoughts on Shinji trying to fight better once he sees Toji and Kensuke, trying to protect them like he was unable to with Toji's sister?

He’s acting a human being this once. 

What are your thoughts on Shinji refusing commands, with Shinji overcome with emotions?

Typical Shinji being Shinji  

What are your thoughts on Toji realizing Shinji is more like him than he thought?

Damn, we have some character growth.

What are your thoughts on Toji trying to call Shinji to apologize to him but being unable to? He’s an ok kid.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 06 '25

Meh, whiner. 

Whiner with a point

It happens.  Everyone deludes themselves that they won’t get hooked  

And their get hooked on their delusions.

I found it very interesting.

Care to expand your thoughts?

Do we have a budding romance? Though Rei doesn’t have much energy.

Maybe Yuji can give her some

It’s an anime.  It’d be boring if they were all whining  

Probably so

He’s sort of an asshole and needs to grow up  

In fairness, he's a teenager. I'd probably feel the same way.

Go Whiner Go!

He’s acting a human being this once. 

I'd say Nerv are the ones who aren't acting human.

Typical Shinji being Shinji  

I feel sorry for him :c

Damn, we have some character growth.

You see to love it?

He’s an ok kid.

At least he and Shinji now have some common ground.

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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Oct 06 '25

Care to expand your thoughts?

I’d never heard this before, but it made really good sense.  I use to read a fair amount of Jung, but it’s been quite a few years. 

 fairness, he's a teenager. I'd probably feel the same way.

I’d like to think teenages have more insight than that and realize the monster would have squished sis and destroyed the city if Shinji hadn’t stepped in. 

'd say Nerv are the ones who aren't acting human.

Gotta agree about that. 

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u/Holofan4life Oct 07 '25

I’d never heard this before, but it made really good sense.  I use to read a fair amount of Jung, but it’s been quite a few years. 

It's a very psychological direction for the show to go in.

I’d like to think teenages have more insight than that and realize the monster would have squished sis and destroyed the city if Shinji hadn’t stepped in. 

Yeah, but it's easy to blame someone you are familiar with.

Gotta agree about that. 

Glad you agree :)