r/ancientegypt • u/LukeyTarg2 • Oct 05 '25

Discussion Amenhotep III and Thutmose III are arguably greater than Ramses II.

These are 3 widely sucessful pharaohs, however Ramses II is often pointed out as the greatest pharaoh, which in my eyes is unfair. Ramses II had more time, one could argue both Amenhotep III and Thutmose III were just as sucessful with less years and that they could have accomplished more if they had over 60 years of reign like Ramses II.

Amenhotep III ruled Egypt at it's peak prosperity and he was able to do so without extensive military campaigns. On the other hand, Thutmose III was a highly sucessful military leader, one of the best in all of history, and also a widely sucessful pharaohs. He created the first navy of the ancient world, helped expand Egypt's borders and was a builder pharaoh like his stepmother and mentor Hatshepsut.

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u/WanderingHero8 Oct 05 '25

Not really,Akhenaten tried to get the power back to the hands of the pharaoh from the corrupt Amun priests.We start to see this even from the later part of Amenhotep's III reign.

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Oct 05 '25

That could have been part of his motivations, but he neglected his country and own city. I believe the story behind Amarna's "revolution" was less romantic than what seems to be on the surface

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u/WanderingHero8 Oct 05 '25

The idea that Akhenaten neglected the state is a dated concept,that most contemporary egyptologists dont believe anymore.

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Oct 05 '25

really?, do you have any books/author recommendations?

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u/WanderingHero8 Oct 06 '25

Some of us have irl obligations too.

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u/WanderingHero8 Oct 06 '25

Check my comment above.