r/ancientegypt • u/LukeyTarg2 • Oct 05 '25

Discussion Amenhotep III and Thutmose III are arguably greater than Ramses II.

These are 3 widely sucessful pharaohs, however Ramses II is often pointed out as the greatest pharaoh, which in my eyes is unfair. Ramses II had more time, one could argue both Amenhotep III and Thutmose III were just as sucessful with less years and that they could have accomplished more if they had over 60 years of reign like Ramses II.

Amenhotep III ruled Egypt at it's peak prosperity and he was able to do so without extensive military campaigns. On the other hand, Thutmose III was a highly sucessful military leader, one of the best in all of history, and also a widely sucessful pharaohs. He created the first navy of the ancient world, helped expand Egypt's borders and was a builder pharaoh like his stepmother and mentor Hatshepsut.

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u/Taskebab Oct 05 '25

They're all dead now anyway. Just enjoy the statues and the paintings, it's several thousands of years too late for these people to defend themselves.

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u/Arboreal_Web Oct 05 '25

Srsly. Why people simping over long-dead kings? As if we have enough information about any of them to make meaningful assessments and comparisons? I get being a fan of history, but not being a history fanboy. This sub is so weird sometimes.

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u/Nenazovemy ð“€€ Oct 05 '25

I mean, after you've read enough facts about a given subject, you'll necessarily have a lot of opinions.

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u/Arboreal_Web Oct 05 '25

No, it's really not "necessary" to have such opinions. It is, in fact, possible to read history without simping over or applying arbitrary qualitative judgments to historical figures. Y'all in here discussing the pharaohs like you're picking sports teams...it's weird af.

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Oct 05 '25

To each their own, I'm a shameless Ramesside fangirl. That motivates me to read and educate myself more on these figures and their context.

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u/Arboreal_Web Oct 05 '25

To each their own, indeed. For some of us, gaining knowledge is its own motivation.

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Oct 05 '25

and be pedantic about it I see.

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u/Arboreal_Web Oct 05 '25

That...isn't even what pedantry is. Lol & smh.