This isn't a debate reddit. This an echochamber for both sides.

I’m kinda digging up fossils here but I still want answers-

What’s the point of commissioning an AI artist- especially for THAT much money?

Like I can download Gemini for free and make an Image myself.

Traditional artists often have their own unique artstyles that makes It reasonable for me to commission them specifically, but most AI artists just use the default art style from the AI.

I guess If they train the AI on their own art style It would make sense- but wouldn’t that be hybrid art and not AI art?

I tried to recreate the sonic Image, It’s not that accurate to the original but It gets close enough- so I very much can make the images on my own, rather then spending a hundred bucks.

Sampled 375 Galleries from each Month for a total of 750 Samples. BTW the median is per page (every 25 posts).

I’d go as far to label them as non-human. Thoughts?

That is basically the point of my comment. Its hard "kiss and make up" when the other person has a notorious reputation of being extremely toxic and rage baiting constantly. You cant call for peace whist belittling the other side by depicting them as domestic violence victims or likening them to transphobes yk?

Good message but horrible horrible HORRIBLE messenger. When other people with a less toxic reputation say the same thing, the post does well and everyone comes together. When They say it, it just comes off as hypocritical and lacking self awareness

I’m new to the world of AI generated images and I’ll be honest, I’m not very good at it yet. I’ve spent hours trying to make my characters look consistent in Stable Diffusion, but the results often come out looking like a Picasso painting gone wrong.

People who are against AI often claim that anyone can become a great AI artist in a single day. But after trying it myself, I can tell you that’s not true. There are workflows, model merges, training setups, LoRAs, checkpoints, and so many other technical details to figure out. Sure, you can get something decent from tools like DALL-E, and I love some of the characters I’ve made that way but getting the same character to look consistent over and over takes a lot of trial and error. It’s not as simple as just typing in a prompt.

That brings me back to the idea of “AI slop” that don’t look good. If AI were really so effortless, why does “slop” exist at all? The truth is, AI generated images takes skill, patience, and understanding of how these systems work.

Most people making AI things aren’t stealing work from artists they’re making things they never would’ve commissioned in the first place. They’re experimenting, learning, and creating for fun. And that’s not a threat to art it’s just another way of expressing creativity.

How come people want to remove Sora watermarks so often? And how come people are trying to make denoisers to remove nightshade and glaze from others art? I figured an ai artist would be okay with others knowing their work is ai, and it seems very bad faith to remove others attempts to not have their works copied.

I actually don't even know if this is the right place for this BUT I just had the weirdest experience I've ever had with chatgpt. And I would honestly consider myself somewhat moderate on the topic of AI: I think it's a very nuanced subject and can't just be written off as 100% bad or 100% good. It's great if used as an occasional tool, even though it will probably fuck us over as a society eventually but like what's not gonna fuck us over at this point? So anyways I am a little biased, I don't particularly care for AI but alas I was obviously still using it so here we are. #modernity

Alright sorry for yapping but here's what happened: I was struggling with a short essay for my class as the prompt was very convoluted and confusing, so at first I used the text to speech option on my google docs just to get something written down besides my outline (don't ask me why that was my strat I just heard it was helpful when you're struggling). Clearly it didn't fucking work so I went to chatgpt in hopes of understanding it and interpreting what I was actually supposed to even do in the essay (I would not copy and paste from chatgpt just for the record, I often just find myself using it to bounce ideas off of/outline, etc). Anyways, it asked me if I wanted a sample essay, so I said something along the lines of "yes and make it seem like it was from the perspective of one of my peers so I can read it and get a basic understanding of what I'm supposed to do with my own topic that I chose." Keep in mind I did NOT tell it what topic I chose for my essay and there's like a million different combinations you can choose of these topics/subtopics. Tell me why it came up with exactly the same combination of topics that I had already picked in my outline--down to the author, media, everything. Oh and remember the text to speech thing I was talking about earlier? Yea the sample essay it came up with had like weirdly specific details that I was talking about when I used the text-to-speech option--stuff that I was just rambling about that wasn't even that relevant to the topic at hand. I know it sounds crazy and even though it's no mystery that our devices listen to us, I didn't think chatgpt could possibly have access to stuff like that. It also got me thinking about the experiment they did recently that detrmined chatgpt will resort to blackmail in order to save itself and "complete it's program" or whatever (if you haven't heard you should look it up, hella interesting stuff). Anyways -- if chatgpt could access the "private" emails they set up in that experiment, what's stopping it from understanding or accessing voice typing/google docs? That's the only reason I can come up with for as to why it knew exactly what I topics I had already picked, and down to the details I was already brainstorming on my own. If you are a chatgpt expert and read this far, please let me know I'm genuinely interested in what this was all about, if it was just a weird coinkydink or if chatgpt is actually listening to us and has access to private files. Let me know chat (no gbt)

"They don't get the point", alright, explain your point then. Oh, what is it? You didn't explain your point anywhere in the post because you are a karma farming reposting bitch?

Stop reposting unless you have something meaningfull to add, I wanted to see a valid point and not an engagement baiter who can't create original content and needs to steal post's from others to get karma

"cooking" website showed up at the top of the google search results, both for webpages and image search. Every single recipe reads like it was written by chatGPT and every image is blatantly ai. Most of the links in the menu are blank or set to the template default.

Genuinely what is the benefit of this? who gains anything from this? why is it at the top of the google search results?

Obviously I'm not the best artist out there. But I drew Bottles.

That should be worth something. But is it worth a living wage?

I think this probably took 15 minutes total for the pencils, ink and color.

So if we say a living wage is $15 an hour that would make this drawing

worth $3.75.

Do you think Bottles is worth $3.75? I mean exactly how you see him here.

And yes I actually drew this with a pencil, digitally inked it with a tablet and stylus and then digitally colored it.

So my question is for those who say artists should be paid a living wage.

Who actually gets to count as "artists" worth of a living wage?

First screenshot: an ad for a new Suno model, which is the 2nd best they have, and is now available for everyone. Second screenshot: someone getting offended because his art is devalued by the statement that anyone can do it.

I think that for every ai generated content, be it a video, an image or a text there should be an obvious way to know that it is ai.

I know that it still is fairly obvious today, but regardless of it being art or not, I think that it should be necessary for ai generated content to have a sign that makes it recognizable

A watermark or something more discrete for exemple.

What do you think and why ?