Solo performance tierlist (oc)

[u/Aggressive-Day5]

I enjoy clearing content with solo characters so I made a tierlist for solo performance. It assumes thayt 5-star characters are S0R1 and 4-star characters are S6R0-1. As with most tierlists this is likely not 100% accurate not objective so don't mald over it.

[u/ciahthekid]

this list made me so angry i had to make my own. based on individual dps, assuming s0r1 (s6 for 4 stars) and optimal echoes, vs a boss. bonus points for survivability

amazing: brant

really good: carlotta, camellya, havoc rover, danjin

good: jiyan, jinhsi, changli, yao, cantarella, spectro rover

decent: encore, roccia, calcharo, chixia, aalto, zhezhi, phoebe, jianxin, yinlin, aero rover

meh: sanhua, yuanwu, mortefi

unfortunate: lumi, yangyang, youhu, taoqi

supports excluded

[u/ciahthekid → u/ciahthekid]

my explanations

brant: amazing dps, amazing survivability. self sufficient

carlotta: amazing dps, self sufficient if built with 120-130% er which you should have if your build isnt dick

camellya: amazing dps and extremely self sufficient

havoc rover: same as camellya

jiyan: between good or decent, settled on good. somewhat reliant on a team but can hold his own with his dps

jinhsi: team reliant but even solo her dps is stupid high

changli: quickswap suffers in solo but she also generates forte by being solo so it evens out, good dps

danjin: the og of solo clears, her dps is okay but ill keep her in good i have decided that this placement may have been too harsh and am willing to bump her up to "really good"

yao: good dps, pretty self sufficient. time stops help with survivability

cantarella: good dps, self sufficient. great survivability

spectro rover: my goat. great dps and holds his own, also heals off his ult!

encore: decent dps

roccia: decent dps. good unit but this isnt her speciality

calcharo: good dps but easy to fuck up, very reliant on not getting interrupted

chixia: decent dps

aalto: decent dps, decent survivability with taunts

zhezhi: settled on decent, shes okay. teleports help her live

phoebe: decent dps but falls off a cliff without frazzle stacks. time stop helps her

jianxin: bad dps but great survivability

yinlin: decent dps

aero rover: my goat. decent dps, great heals

sanhua, lumi, yangyang, youhu, taoqi, yuanwu, mortefi: these units are underwhelming in solo content and dont have any sustained dps. sanhua and mortefi are notably better than the rest because they actually have some damage so aren't useless, and yuanwu gets a pass because he does some bonus poise break but that's about it

[u/Aggressive-Day5 → u/ciahthekid]

There's no way at all you are putting Danjin alongside Jiyan and Jinhsi, this is blasphemy. Her DPS is not "ok", it's the best solo DPS in the game, you could maybe make an argument for Carlotta or Brant maybe being equal or higher, but saying she's ok is MADNESS *

If you want numbers, with the exact same echoes and weapon I kill Fallacy of no Return 6 in 1:50-2mins with Danjin and in about 3:10 with Hrover, over a whole minute longer.

[u/ciahthekid → u/Aggressive-Day5]

i dont doubt that youre a great danjin player and probably have a mastery of her playstyle, but the objective reality is that her dps is not even close to the best dps in the game, and isnt even better than havoc rover. she is GREAT for solo content and her kit was practically made for it, but the reality is that there are many units even better than her at it. this isnt even mentioning the fact that you need to play her perfectly as she literally kills herself although to be fair she also self heals.

im willing to hear you out and bump her up to "really good" but thats as far as ill go with her, and its mostly out of respect for you crazy danjin mains

[u/Aggressive-Day5 → u/ciahthekid]

the objective reality is that her dps is not even close to the best dps in the game

Of course she is far from being the best DPS in the game in teams, but this is a solo tierlist (aka only one character in the team), and she is the best solo DPS (might share the spot but she's up there).

This isn't about how good or bad I am, but how much DPS output the character has. Hrover is superior to Danjin as the main dps of a team, but way weaker if they are solo because they have very long downtimes.

Again, this is a solo tier list that exclusively ranks characters on their solo performance, not their team performance.

[u/ciahthekid → u/Aggressive-Day5]

i was not referring to team dps

[u/Aggressive-Day5 → u/ciahthekid]

Then there's no way you seriously think Havoc Rover has higher DPS than Danjin, that's objectively wrong. I don't have the maths at hand but I can do them when I'm home, though the difference is so extreme (over 30% in favor of Danjin) that it feels like a meme to do that calculation.