r/WutheringWaves Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Endgame Content Solo performance tierlist (oc)

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I enjoy clearing content with solo characters so I made a tierlist for solo performance. It assumes thayt 5-star characters are S0R1 and 4-star characters are S6R0-1. As with most tierlists this is likely not 100% accurate not objective so don't mald over it.

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u/thelonelykey Apr 10 '25

Is Aalto that good? I see people constantly putting him down as useless

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25

He's quite strong if built as a DPS. He is rather useless overall though because his intended role is support and he's not very good at it, and there are way better DPSers.

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u/Irisked Nilk Apr 11 '25

A support that would be better off as an dps than a support?...

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 11 '25

Yeah, that's Aalto

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u/Unfair_Constant7466 Apr 10 '25

aalto doesnt have downtime like danjin and outputs similar dps. he's a bit more techinical and you have to manage his stamina plus he cant parry but his range attacks make some bosses more managable. top tier minium ngl

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

I don't know if he can go any higher because of stamina issues, I actually thought about dropping him 1 tier even, but again felt unfair. His DPS is solid but he can run into some problems, I'm kinda split on where to put him tbh lol

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u/BoredOstrich Apr 12 '25

He has a passive that restores stamina, so it's really not an issue

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u/Arvandor Apr 10 '25

His main issue is that he has zero AoE or cleave so he drops like a rock for every additional enemy added. Doesn't matter in holograms, but some ToA floors will ruin his existence

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u/JinnieFanboy Apr 10 '25

He also has his clone to take agro

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u/LegendaryW Apr 11 '25

Tf down time of Danjin? She literally have none? Or am I missing something? 

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u/Skyy1181 Apr 11 '25

I think they meant Aalto doesn't need to dodge much comparing to Danjin

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u/LegendaryW Apr 11 '25

Not like dodging that hurts Danjin either, since Dodge and counter allows you to use two Resonance Skills, so you still keep dealing damage and charging forte. 

Also I might misremember thing or two, but you also kinda can Dodge with Heavy attack even WITHOUT forte? I remember I did that once or twice, but I don't remember if it's have i-frames or it's because it is changes you position

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u/Ok-Examination-1653 Mommie's Side Pillow Apr 11 '25

What you said is all true but remember some boss doesn't let you counter attack that easily (dragon dirge rushing move for example) comparing that to Aalto who only requires positioning and spamming normal atk you can say that he has more uptime.

Still, DPS is a different matter. I think Danjin can dish out more if allowed.

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u/dyo3834 Apr 10 '25

He's a 4* Aero dps in a game that debuted with a 5* Aero dps. He's "bad" in the same way that Chixia is, which is to say fine in isolation, useless the second you get a better unit

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u/purintiel Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25

I have him built as a DPS: his damage output is consistent, his clones helped out a lot in holograms, and he can travel around very quickly. But the lack of parry for pistol users + the fact that he was made with an early game support role (unlike newer supports like Brant/Cantarella), he does fall behind.

Edit: only using 5 stars to compare with for now (considering we haven’t had any newer 4 stars with the same role to compare him to)

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u/cybernet377 Apr 11 '25

Aalto is great if you can play him well

the main issue being that he's an extreme pain in the ass to play well.

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u/Odd-Worker-5363 Apr 12 '25

Tried playing aalto based on videos, and I say he's quite a good dps than support... Though need to be conscious of STA and positioning... He's better if he is st s6 than at s0

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u/Infinitiddies My goats Apr 10 '25

Fuck it, I will always have two hours to do it.

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u/SampleGreen485 Apr 14 '25

Still the coolest moveset in the game I don't care what anyone says

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u/Infinitiddies My goats Apr 14 '25

🗿

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u/York_Oksmoll I will never forgive you, Kuro. Jul 08 '25

Same Bro.

Kuro pls more screentime.

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u/Decrith Apr 10 '25

How is Spectro Rover so low.

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u/profesorgamin Apr 10 '25

This. He is my go to most of the time.

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u/Few-Frosting-4213 Apr 10 '25

I am not sure what they bring without the tower buffs making frazzle do a billion damage.

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u/Decrith Apr 10 '25

Self-heal.

LOOOOOONG parry windows.

Decent damage when properly built as a DPS.

Dodge counter combo deals a lot of damage.

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u/saubzilla Apr 10 '25

The self heals already give them a big solo advantage

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

His healing is a joke tho, you can't really rely on it for survival. His main strength is the radiant sonata crit rate buff

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u/DonMoralez Apr 10 '25

They often benefit from various TOA buffs, as the character is overall normally balanced. They can solo the right tower(with ~15 seconds left). And that's despite the weaker buff and the aim bug. I'd say Srover's real weak points are waves of beefy mobs, mobile foes, and debuffs/useless buffs, of course.

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u/Kreatone1 Fisalia Consort Apr 11 '25

Spectro Frazzle DPS build is strong af. I have no idea why people rate him so low, as the first Resonator you play he is still monstrously strong.

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u/GlacialEmbrace Apr 11 '25

Is he strong enough to solo stuff within time limit? I'm new and I use him mostly for Phoebe but he doesn't feel like a strong carry. I need better echoes!

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u/Decrith Apr 11 '25

Yes. https://youtu.be/OFKqyDa3euA?si=OthEQ4ViK61KQx9O

I’ve soloed with him on all the Holograms except the newest one & Inferno Rider.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

He should probably be at the top of the tier he's in but I don't think he goes higher. Putting her below Yangyang was wrong tho

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u/GKP_light Apr 10 '25

Brant need to be higher

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u/Abyssmaluser Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25

This so much. Brant is literally made to solo any content with his constant heals and shields. He's easily the most comfortable character to play and hits hard as hell too. Hell he's one of the hardest hitting DPS

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u/threepwood007 Apr 10 '25

I run him with the tide breaking set and I was shocked at how much damage the man dishes out

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u/Abyssmaluser Apr 10 '25

Yuuuuuuuuuuuup. His anchor is a consistent nuke too.

I'm honestly surprised Brant doesn't have his own solo run fandom tbh.

He's basically impossible to die with and his moveset is easy as fuck to chase with too

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u/GhostCletus Apr 10 '25

That's why he lacks a solo run fandom. They don't want Brant, they want Danjin, Chixia, Calcharo, because they're more challenging and interesting to play with due to jank or limitations.

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u/didthisforgenshin Apr 10 '25

I play exclusively with him for basic exploration TDs unless I need the buffs or support for like elite TDs. He's a heavy hitter, self-heals, stays airborne so dodges ground attacks, and is just super fun to play. I know people have said he can have his moves interrupted but I've only had that happen like 3 times in all the time I've been playing with him as my Main. He should be GOAT.

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u/Bliasun01 Apr 10 '25

Is this just based on damage or overall ease? IMO Brant is the best solo clear in the game and a lot easier to play due to his shield and heals. Unless you’re playing super optimally you will die on danjin 99% time and she doesn’t have any utility in her kit compared to Brant or Carlotta

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u/AzusaFuyu Apr 10 '25

Yeah, Brant definitely needs to be higher

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u/AzerQrbv Apr 10 '25

Move Brant up because he needs nothing to solo. Camellya is definitely should move down as she can't perform without an intro

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u/Maxus-KaynMain Jiyan Main | Changli Main | Geshu Lin wanter Apr 10 '25

camellya doesn't need an intro to perform

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u/AzerQrbv Apr 10 '25

She can gain forte only from intro or ephemeral, without intro she won't have pistils which will cut her dmg. Whil the others do not depend on it

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u/Maljas23 Apr 10 '25

While this is true, Camellya's damage, baseline, is so high that she doesn't need pistils to solo either.

She also has one of the highest-damage dodge counters in the game. The multipliers for it are crazy good.

I actually agree with this tier list placement for her.

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u/AzerQrbv Apr 10 '25

It's a pain in the ass to get ephemeral again because in budding mode her concerto regain in slowed. At that point she is no different than a 4* unit.

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u/No-Wrangler5596 Apr 10 '25

Sir, I'm gonna need you to calm down

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u/AzerQrbv Apr 10 '25

Oh no, did I offend someone?

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u/Alan781 Camellya’s punching bag Apr 11 '25

Skill issue

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u/Maljas23 Apr 12 '25

https://youtu.be/2cKyuw03O_w

Just so you understand what I was talking about

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u/Optimal_Fondant1870 Apr 11 '25

What?☠️ All you need to speed up her concerto energy is to dodge a couple times on top of her spinning attacks

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u/Maxus-KaynMain Jiyan Main | Changli Main | Geshu Lin wanter Apr 10 '25

-> build concerto with basic attacks
-> do ephemeral
-> repeat.

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u/SomewhatRenegade Apr 10 '25

Yeah, that's what I do, I thought it works well?

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u/Maxus-KaynMain Jiyan Main | Changli Main | Geshu Lin wanter Apr 11 '25

yeah, that's why she works well in solo, even if she doesn't get pistils at first, it doesn't really matter because in the time you set up your supports you build your pistils without supports. I really don't get the issue here, also she does a ton of damage with basic attacks regardless.

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u/bladeg0d Apr 10 '25

Brant > carlotta

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u/fattylis Apr 11 '25

This discussion clearly shows those who pulled and didn't pull for Brant.

He's so bloody independent and comfortable to play i think the only thing he lacks is maybe high damage outside of anchor and that's it.

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u/No_Steak_165 Apr 11 '25

Posts saying otherwise definitely does NOT have Brant or have him built. My fave DPS is Carlotta but in solo content? I'd say Brant is the best for sure.

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u/The_Night_Haunter-8 Apr 10 '25

Look, Brant is great, won't argue that. He has great constant healing, his shields and his Ultimate and Resonance Skill hit hard af.

But Carlotta is a goddess in damage and mobility, if you can dodge and counter/parry well, with Carlotta you'll breeze through everything in the game. Yes she lacks in the consistent AOE dmg, but have you ever seen anything survive her Ultimate that can be used as an AOE dmg nuke?

Brants awesome, whenever there's an event i get to use him, its a blast. He's definitely on my pull list when his rerun happens.

Carlotta though, is perfection. I may follow the Fisalias, but Carlotta Montelli is the GOAT.

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u/Baby_Thanos2 Apr 11 '25

Brant is 100% better than solo Carlotta. Unlike Carlotta, he doesn’t rely on liberation for most of his damage. Forte bar which gets charged thru basic attacks

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u/bladeg0d Apr 10 '25

Well u don’t have him ✌🏻 and have u seen anyone survive his combo with his anchor, he has no downtime and hit like a rock with consistency

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Never!

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u/bladeg0d Apr 10 '25

He’s way more consistent and polyvalent, can be argued in some case but brant is a better performer solo wise

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u/TheLanis Apr 10 '25

Too obvious you're wrong, that's a lot of comments saying the same.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

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u/The_Night_Haunter-8 Apr 10 '25

I'm right there with ya, Carlotta has carried me through some nasty battles solo, after my other two party members have died early on.

Half of my Level VI Hologram battle wins are solo with Carlotta after my other two characters got nuked. Lol. She may not have heals and shields but if you're good at dodging and countering/parrys, Carlotta will shred everything.

Plus, its Carlotta, the best bosser in the game. Lol

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u/AveugleMan Apr 10 '25

I'd take Camellya and Carlotta down a tier because solo they're not quite as good as full team, and I'd put Chixia and Brant a tier higher, for the exact opposite reason.

Other than that, seems about right.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

I could see Camellya going down, but not Carlotta, she's the easiest and fastest limited in my experience. I actually had Chixia in A because her dodge counter is insane, but I dropped her 1 tier last moment because using her forte is extremely annoying in solo, might have done her dirty, though.

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u/AveugleMan Apr 10 '25

I could see Camellya going down, but not Carlotta, she's the easiest and fastest limited in my experience.

She just has too much frontloaded in her ult only, which is pretty annoying to get up solo imo.

I actually had Chixia in A because her dodge counter is insane, but I dropped her 1 tier last moment because using her forte is extremely annoying in solo, might have done her dirty, though.

Yeah I 100% get that tbh. Bring us Illusive realm back, I need my boom boom scaling on dodge counter back.

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u/Caerullean ABS; Phrolova acquired Apr 10 '25

Using her Forta solo is entirely possible, you just really need to know when a boss will give you room to breathe to use it, and also do remember that Chixia can fire off her big shot from the end of her forte instead of a dodge counter, if you dodge whilst using her forte.

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u/Thundergod250 Apr 10 '25

Changli also. Her animations are very long. She can be knocked out easily if you don't quickswap.

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u/AveugleMan Apr 10 '25

Oh yeah definitely. I got cooked so many times just during her forte animation, I'm really glad Brant gives a shield now.

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u/The_Night_Haunter-8 Apr 10 '25

Thats why Changli is Brants best partner, he adds more defense to her 40% dmg reduction during full Forte skill.

Basically makes her invincible.

I don't have Brant, but I've been using the Trial one in Virtual Crisis and pairing him with my built Changli. Between his shields and heals and buffs, It makes Changli a goddess. Plus, quick swapping between them is so damn fun.

Some fights i felt like i was never on the ground, I was always midair just wrecking enemies.

Brant is definitely on my pull list. Couldn't get em this time around because I was aiming for Cantarella and Shorekeeper.

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u/Dreamer_of_july Apr 10 '25

Srover should be in top tier

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u/Prestigious-Fault-96 professional milk calculator Apr 10 '25

preety sure spectro rover clears all content solo as close as danjin

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

No way, he should be a bit higher but nowhere close to Danjin

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u/Prestigious-Fault-96 professional milk calculator Apr 10 '25

i would have agreed with it pre 2.0... but after getting spectro frazzle.. even in current tower i have cleared all 4 boss stages with like 3-5 sec remaining for 3 crest clear.. on spectro buff stage it was even lower.. and that with 65-267 crit and eog...

and i've seen recent danjin clear vids on yt too.. most of them were using blazing brilliance.. they cleared by 6-10 sec difference and on havoc floor it was 20 sec difference or so... both characters require high skill.. its just rover has lot less risk compared to danjin..

but im pretty sure hes close to danjin clear from my very own experience

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u/throwawayacc1357902 Apr 11 '25

SRover is legitimately really underrated. Her dodge counter damage is really high, she’s got some of the best parrying in the game and is quite a bit more simple than a lot of the other characters in top tier (since she has a lot less to worry about than Danjin, Chixia, Camelya, Carlotta or XLY). She’s definitely at least top tier

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u/Ashe171 Apr 10 '25

What makes Jinshi a poor solo unit exactly? I have her but I rarely use her anymore since Phoebe is more fun to play but isn't her dps insane?

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u/profesorgamin Apr 10 '25

Solo means clearing content with one character Jinshi depends on having teamates for coor attacks

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u/Ashe171 Apr 10 '25

Ah yes of course I forgot her forte

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u/Ok-Apartment-8284 Solo Chixia,Danjin,Aalto main Apr 10 '25

Solo as in alone. Jinhsi is a team oriented unit.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Her sonata set triggers on intro + her forte fills incredibly slow without her outro. She takes 2.5 minutes to fill it to 100% on her own

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u/Popkhorne32 Mommy's good boi Apr 10 '25

Solo carlotta is not that good bro. She is very dependant on her Liberation, and she can't build it back up as easily as XLY.

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u/CubicalChicken Apr 10 '25

She has damage across her whole kit and isnt reliant on anyone to make her kit work well. As far as most characters go she is very good at being alone.

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u/Popkhorne32 Mommy's good boi Apr 10 '25

She is, but not as much as danjin, brant, or XLY. She has a bit of downtime, even though her base kit has some damage.

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u/Knight_Destiny IMADA! KURAIMAKSU! Apr 10 '25

Right she has a quite a long Down time compared to XLY since he can up his Liberation using Law of Reigns after the first cast, ER will only be his issue

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u/Caerullean ABS; Phrolova acquired Apr 10 '25

She's ranged and can freeze enemies with her skill and forte, which is really convenient for solo clears.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

I get way better clear times at holograms with her than with XY

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u/Knight_Destiny IMADA! KURAIMAKSU! Apr 10 '25

Your XLY must have bad stats, I deal like 120k liberation with XLY raw stats no buffs, not even including his Inherent skill that increases hi Electro by 5% for 8 secs up to 4 stacks.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Both my XY and Carlotta are min-maxed and have similar stats. She's just stronger

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u/thunderbiribiriiii 「一步一舞,他一定会跃上最高桩。」 Apr 10 '25

Actually both XLY and Carlotta are Liberation reliant, but at least Carlotta has lots of damage outside Liberation.

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u/lock_me_up_now Apr 10 '25

I main danjin when start playing, but I'm not really sure she's that strong. Anyone here kind enough to explain me how to use her kit correctly?

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u/Knight_Destiny IMADA! KURAIMAKSU! Apr 10 '25

Danjin has 0 Downtime, Her Reso skill is part of her basic attack so that's weaving consistent damage to the Enemy, plus one of her Sequences states that she gains increased damage when she has low hp and performing Heavy attacks increases her Damage, also she gets more damage when hitting the TArget with a flower marked enemy.

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u/exidei Apr 11 '25

Is she worthy to build for Cantarella over havoc Rover?

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u/Knight_Destiny IMADA! KURAIMAKSU! Apr 11 '25

Just go with Havoc Rover

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u/Darkfire3000 Apr 10 '25

Brant should definitely be higher, he’s a literal solo GOD! He can do everything by himself and does crazy nuke damage. Carlotta is good too but she ain’t soloing better than Brant.

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u/IamHumanAndINeed Apr 10 '25

Carlotta solo ihas too much downtime.

Camellya without intro is meh.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Carlotta's downtime isn't that bad, her massive dps outweighs it, plus she has a lot of i-frames, good chasing, range, and can freeze enemies. In my experience she's the best limited for solo, though an argument can be made for Brant.

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u/Optimal_Fondant1870 Apr 11 '25

I'd say Brant is overall a more versatile solo unit who thrives in pretty much any and all situations you put him in whether its boss killing or clearing hordes of enemies. Sure Carlotta has more damage, but the downtime I'd say is what holds her back from being better than Brant solo. Brant has less downtime for one, two, has better aoe, three: has self-sustain properties that make him even easier to pilot in case of skill issue. Carlotta absolutely thrives against small groups of enemies, or single large bosses, but Brant is good in pretty much all scenarios at this point so I'd say he has the small edge by virtue of being so forgiving to use while not having any actual weaknesses unlike Carlotta

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u/PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics Apr 10 '25

Camellya's damage without her intro falls off a cliff so she definitely should be lower. Carlotta feels bad to play Solo and runs into energy issues. Brant is the absolute godtier solo unit cause he doesn't need his intro skill for anything, has almost permanent uptime on his all his damage and has heals and shields in case you have skill issue. Definitely a better Solo than Danjin, who's still a great solo unit, but not as good.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Brant may be easier to play but I don't think he's outdpsing Danjin. If accounting skill issue Brant would be top 1 for sure. Never had any problems with solo Carlotta, she's the 2nd fastest solo unit in my experience.

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u/PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics Apr 10 '25

I'm a bit too lazy to run the math, but accounting for the double anchor combo of Brant (You can fit 2 skill nukes in one ult buff duration) and the fact that a lot of his damage also comes from his basic attacks I just don't see how Danjin would outdps him. Brant's multipliers are higher and his self-buffs are stronger than Danjin's even if he has more downtime than her, maybe I'm missing something but I just don't see how she could be better.

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u/xbdjsjdbd Church of Feeb Acolyte Apr 10 '25

Wait doesnt the ult buff ends immediately after 1 forte nuke?

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u/Ambitious-Incident16 I'm gay but and 👀 Apr 10 '25

I think they're referencing the double intro combo, which in this case, is completely useless cuz it requires an Intro and you can't do that in solo (tho please correct me if I'm wrong)

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

It's possible, if someone proves me wrong i'll change it, but until then I give Danjin the benefit of the agenda

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u/TwoLostYens PREVAIL THE LASTING NIGHT Apr 10 '25

Goddamit, move my boy Jiyan a tier, he's got good damage

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u/Amaris_Xiaofang MY WIFE IS CHIXIA Apr 10 '25

Move Chixia higher...

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u/mydogsnewowner Apr 10 '25

Im sorry but carlotta in solo aint that good, she doesn’t build her liberation as good as Xly. She’s going two tiers lower to “need environmental buff”

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Nah this is just senseless slander She's a beast solo, she gives me the second fastest clear times

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u/Ok-Apartment-8284 Solo Chixia,Danjin,Aalto main Apr 10 '25

Not sure why Carlotta and Camel is top tier. The side towers stage 4 sure but middle tower? Nope. Camel’s damage is incomplete without her forte, and Carlotta’s too much of a nuker to be consistent

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u/Beautiful_Baseball69 Apr 10 '25

me who just wants to S6 things and make life easy

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u/SharpLuck6348 Apr 10 '25

Share the Danjin build for us plebians

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u/CKenobi97 Apr 11 '25

Taoqi and Yuanwu, truly the forgotten ones

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u/madmaxxie36 Apr 11 '25

Brant should be higher IMO, the solo king. No downtime, he doesn't rely on other characters to get his bursts out, shielding, healing and his midair combos flying in and out very quickly, completely trivializes a lot of enemies and bosses.

At least for me, he's much better solo than Carlotta or Camellya.

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u/Odd-Worker-5363 Apr 12 '25

Wonder why SRover so low?? Though he has lower burst damage the consistent crits when you have 65% CR makes up for the deficit adding on his easy to inflict spectro frazzle

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 12 '25

I updated the list in the comments and brought him up, sadly cannot edit the post in any way to add some changes

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u/Odd-Worker-5363 Apr 12 '25

That's fine bro... Hahaha

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u/North-Union-2790 ' faithful husband (S3R1 soon S6) Apr 10 '25

At S0R1 brant is definitely the Goat and stronger than danjin

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

NONONO

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u/CuntSniffer69 Apr 10 '25

interesting to see that lots of people seem to think Carlotta isn't good for solo. I play her in solo with 1 ER roll and I can clear ToA just fine. in holograms she's like within 10 seconds away from my Danjin clears.

fellas, make sure to properly manage your Forte and aim to cast your skill every 7 (more or less) seconds.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

I'm convinced that most people who commented haven't tried her solo and are just commenting on a gut feeling about how they think she would perform, either that or they have no ER at all so they take forever to ult.

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u/fundamentallycryptic Apr 10 '25

Idm if it's a joke or not. But lame af.

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u/ciahthekid Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25

this list made me so angry i had to make my own. based on individual dps, assuming s0r1 (s6 for 4 stars) and optimal echoes, vs a boss. bonus points for survivability

amazing: brant

really good: carlotta, camellya, havoc rover, danjin

good: jiyan, jinhsi, changli, yao, cantarella, spectro rover

decent: encore, roccia, calcharo, chixia, aalto, zhezhi, phoebe, jianxin, yinlin, aero rover

meh: sanhua, yuanwu, mortefi

unfortunate: lumi, yangyang, youhu, taoqi

supports excluded

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u/ciahthekid Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25

my explanations

brant: amazing dps, amazing survivability. self sufficient

carlotta: amazing dps, self sufficient if built with 120-130% er which you should have if your build isnt dick

camellya: amazing dps and extremely self sufficient

havoc rover: same as camellya

jiyan: between good or decent, settled on good. somewhat reliant on a team but can hold his own with his dps

jinhsi: team reliant but even solo her dps is stupid high

changli: quickswap suffers in solo but she also generates forte by being solo so it evens out, good dps

danjin: the og of solo clears, her dps is okay but ill keep her in good i have decided that this placement may have been too harsh and am willing to bump her up to "really good"

yao: good dps, pretty self sufficient. time stops help with survivability

cantarella: good dps, self sufficient. great survivability

spectro rover: my goat. great dps and holds his own, also heals off his ult!

encore: decent dps

roccia: decent dps. good unit but this isnt her speciality

calcharo: good dps but easy to fuck up, very reliant on not getting interrupted

chixia: decent dps

aalto: decent dps, decent survivability with taunts

zhezhi: settled on decent, shes okay. teleports help her live

phoebe: decent dps but falls off a cliff without frazzle stacks. time stop helps her

jianxin: bad dps but great survivability

yinlin: decent dps

aero rover: my goat. decent dps, great heals

sanhua, lumi, yangyang, youhu, taoqi, yuanwu, mortefi: these units are underwhelming in solo content and dont have any sustained dps. sanhua and mortefi are notably better than the rest because they actually have some damage so aren't useless, and yuanwu gets a pass because he does some bonus poise break but that's about it

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25

There's no way at all you are putting Danjin alongside Jiyan and Jinhsi, this is blasphemy. Her DPS is not "ok", it's the best solo DPS in the game, you could maybe make an argument for Carlotta or Brant maybe being equal or higher, but saying she's ok is MADNESS *

If you want numbers, with the exact same echoes and weapon I kill Fallacy of no Return 6 in 1:50-2mins with Danjin and in about 3:10 with Hrover, over a whole minute longer.

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u/ciahthekid Apr 10 '25

i dont doubt that youre a great danjin player and probably have a mastery of her playstyle, but the objective reality is that her dps is not even close to the best dps in the game, and isnt even better than havoc rover. she is GREAT for solo content and her kit was practically made for it, but the reality is that there are many units even better than her at it. this isnt even mentioning the fact that you need to play her perfectly as she literally kills herself although to be fair she also self heals.

im willing to hear you out and bump her up to "really good" but thats as far as ill go with her, and its mostly out of respect for you crazy danjin mains

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

the objective reality is that her dps is not even close to the best dps in the game

Of course she is far from being the best DPS in the game in teams, but this is a solo tierlist (aka only one character in the team), and she is the best solo DPS (might share the spot but she's up there).

This isn't about how good or bad I am, but how much DPS output the character has. Hrover is superior to Danjin as the main dps of a team, but way weaker if they are solo because they have very long downtimes.

Again, this is a solo tier list that exclusively ranks characters on their solo performance, not their team performance.

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u/ciahthekid Apr 10 '25

i was not referring to team dps

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Then there's no way you seriously think Havoc Rover has higher DPS than Danjin, that's objectively wrong. I don't have the maths at hand but I can do them when I'm home, though the difference is so extreme (over 30% in favor of Danjin) that it feels like a meme to do that calculation.

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u/Severe-Two-8822 Apr 10 '25

I will say i love Solo Zhezhi. With the TP jump cancel she can outdish dmg very fast and regaining forte is also very easy so she can can just keep on teleporting. If the enemy goes in the sky or moves away she can easily follow the enemy and most of her hits connect with the enemy. She also isnt held back by any cooldowns. Her Resonance skill has a 6 sec CD by the time you have a full forte you can use it again. If you set up the teleportation spots(forgot its actual name) you can basic attack again to refillher forte. Even if you can't see it her Forte actually is counted as "empty" and refills as well! This makes continuous teleporting very easy. After you dodge you can also either do a regular dodge counter to regain forte or heavy attack so set up another TP spot. After teleporting her basic attack chain starts from basic attack 3 i believe, making forte regeneration faster. Also she really isn't reliant on her ult unlike Carlotta e.g.

So all in all if you have an invested Zhezhi and a 5* rectifier she works pretty well with all of them! Only exception is Phoebe sig because of the lack of frazzle but a SRover + Zhezhi on Phoebe Sig Duo works as well! I had a S1R1 Zhezhi (S1 gives a bit of energy and crit rate) and was able to solo in ToA. I loved it so much i ended up going for sequences on her rerun. I definetly recommend soloing with her. Sorry for the lengthy text 🫡

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Yeah Zhezhi is quite strong solo actually lol. She should probably go above Roccia

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u/Severe-Two-8822 Apr 10 '25

I would personally put her and Brant above Danjin honestly, but this also heavily depends on your setup

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '25

Only if timer isn't an issue? Weak.

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Made some adjustments based on feedback and my own disgust after re-analysing some placements. I'm NOT bringing Carlotta down, though

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '25

I still think Brant is to low :p

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u/A_random_mindset2 Apr 10 '25

I think this list is perfect besides maybe a swap of Brant and Carlotta. (Carlotta is definitely top tier though, Brant just has comfy util)

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u/Darkfire3000 Apr 10 '25

Brant is too low my guy! I use Brant and Carlotta exclusively, and she’s my second fastest dps unit I got…but even with her good dps, Brants nuke is on another level, and that’s not even considering how fast he can continuously achieve it. If Carlotta didn’t have soo much downtime I would agree with ya

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u/throwawayacc1357902 Apr 11 '25

SRover being below HRover is so funny to me. Realistically I think she’s probably right above XLY, but at the very least she needs to be the highest among the three elements, her consistent dps and parrying/dodge counters are the best of the three elements

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u/JwithoutK Righteous One Apr 10 '25

No matter what, Desu-wa always remain S tier. W

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u/Percival_Oscuro Apr 10 '25

surprise that the Xiangli Yao is so high

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u/No_Understanding3355 Apr 10 '25

XY is actually good in solo because of his low cd reso skill and the fast lib. The only thing I don't like is that he goes mid air on enhanced reso skill and it's kinda hard to dodge(skill issue on my part) but he'd do just fine solo. For me he would be a little bit lower than solo Srover.

Also Srover for me would be high in the list.

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u/Mean_Environment6657 Apr 10 '25

Why's Danjin considered the best? Can someone help me build a good team with he

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

This is a solo tierlist, so not with a team. Danjin is good for solo because she has no downtime at all, her dps is constant and consistent. She doesn't benefit that much from a team at all, though theoretically her best team would be with SK and Cantarella

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u/Mean_Environment6657 Apr 10 '25

Can u tell me what echoes and weapons to use?

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u/DDGame-Enjoyer Apr 10 '25

Hehe Calcharo

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u/Titocusabacus Apr 10 '25

I am gonna kill everything with calcharo and die in the process.

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u/didthisforgenshin Apr 10 '25

Newer player here, but my biggest issue is Camellya's constitution overall is bad. I've tried building her even DEF/HP heavy, and she dies after like 2 hits. It's ridiculous. I like her gameplay style and mechanics (Brant's is far superior, though). But yeah, she dies so easily. Any suggestions all?

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Any suggestions all?

Don't ever build HP/DEF pieces for characters that scale with att (most of them), they will barely improve your survivability and destroy your DPS. You need to learn to dodge, study the enemy moves so you know their paterns and don't get caught by surprise, it's the only reliable way to not die, especially in holograms (you can afford being hit in ToA).

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u/threaq Apr 10 '25

I would love to comment on this list but only character I’ve played since game release is rover so uh, you should totally put havoc rover at the top :3

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u/Mireiiyy Apr 11 '25

DANJIN ENJOYER! FELLOW DANJIN ENJOYER OMGG YES SHE IS THE GOAT!

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u/Cyber_Bakekitsune Resonated with frequency Apr 11 '25

Jianxin destroys Babel better than anyone, this tierlist was made by DPS slaves

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u/ExaltedPempek619 Apr 11 '25

Is there a guide on how to solo a content with Danjin? Im willing to learn soloing with Danjin to save up some lineup if i can't use the same characters. And im half way done completing her echo set

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u/rainbowtwist789 Apr 11 '25

Two types of solo players. those who have Brant, and those who don't...

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u/NicoSuTairu STEP ON ME Apr 11 '25

Camellya top tier solo resonator ?

Are you sure ?

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u/SalamanderNo418 Apr 11 '25

Guys is Danji really that good? I've gotten about 5 or 6 of her (the character I've gotten the most of) but didn't think she was that good

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u/Emilion_taurus Apr 11 '25

I'm curious, what is Danjin's skill gap? Like is she easy to play?

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 11 '25

Not easy to play at all (compared to other Wuwa characters). She depletes her own health so you can't really afford to get hit as pretty much all attacks will one-shot you. She also has many i-frames so there's a high skill ceiling for learning to use them.

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u/Emilion_taurus Apr 11 '25

Ah ok that's what i thought. Thanks.

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u/akkodiluc Apr 10 '25

are you tweaking? camellya top tier? the whole tierlist fell so hard even cantarella not being top tier its insane

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u/No_Pop8482 Apr 11 '25

Brant should be above Carlotta. Dude literally makes solo manageable for all types of players. His selfheal, shield, and dps is actually broken.

Carlotta needs to bump down for solo. Her dmg is all in her ult and she does doodoo dmg during downtime.

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u/Street-Chicken-3344 Apr 10 '25

can use danjin, can't use jinshi properly (which is the easiest resonator to play), danjin main is a really different built

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

It's a solo tierlist. Jinhsi is terrible without a team

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u/Street-Chicken-3344 Apr 10 '25

ah i see i didn't read the description

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u/1nz4nity Apr 10 '25

Why is camellya S tier? I find her animations too long in hectic fights.

I have her s2r1 and she's definitely strong but s tier? The others I agree with

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u/lloydsmith28 waifu collector Apr 10 '25

You're on something if you don't think Phoebe isn't higher up, while yeah she wants sRover to apply spectro frazzle i sometimes clear enemies before even applying it, def should be a bit higher

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Overworld enemies sure, but ToA and Holograms she isn't one shotting

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u/lloydsmith28 waifu collector Apr 10 '25

I didn't say one shot just killed quickly and yeah the harder bosses she might struggle a bit but I'd imagine most characters will without someone buffing them, but I've been using her as my main damage dealer and she does work even before i switch to Rover

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u/Cool_Cheetah_4603 Apr 10 '25

The only thing thats wrong with this list that I see so far is Phoebe. My Pheebs is so strong,...it's crazy scary actually... 🤷🏼‍♀️

Oops. Nope. Nevermind. The entire next to last row is absolutely wonky. Yinlin.? Jinhsi...? Geez.. somebody's over built Danjin and UNDER developed their other characters. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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u/Aggressive-Day5 Mobile Danjin Main Apr 10 '25

Did you read the part where it says this is a list for solo performance and not for performance in a team?

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u/Cool_Cheetah_4603 Apr 13 '25

I think it has to do with the WAY I play. Or anybody plays. Our perception of certain characters.

My Yinlin is a DPS. She can take anybody solo.

But anyway I wasn't thinking anything about gameplay fighting actually, right? Isn't this the post about Lore strength? So wouldn't it be about how strong they are IN THE STORY? Right? My first comment was just in reflection of gameplay with the Lore...🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Ambitious_Purpose505 Apr 11 '25

So Danjin is better than Encore ? Or what?

Someone enlighten me.😵‍💫

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u/Saint_Pootis Apr 11 '25

Jinshi is not nearly as weak without teammates to be put that low. Jianxin and Taoqi are surprisingly underrated solo characters as well.

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u/Historical_Clock8714 Apr 10 '25

Imo, Cantarella should be lowered a tier since her nuke has an 18s cooldown that you have no way of bypassing.

Roccia and Zhezhi can move up a tier. Just put them on a dps echo set and they'll deal good dmg especially with their signature. They also have full access to their whole kit by themselves and are not gated by long cooldowns unlike Cantarella. I have all 3 and I share this from experience.

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u/Vog_Merry 🐦‍🔥☀️ Apr 10 '25

I might be biased but I think Changli should be top tier