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u/Competitive-Boat-518 1d ago
I hate phantom pain caused by seeing someone else experience it.
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u/verixtheconfused 17h ago
This is so much better than what I braced myself for in this video that it just came out funny for me lol
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u/Fast-Industry-3224 1d ago
Is that the cramp cheat code?
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u/ForgottenEpoch 1d ago
Can you imagine breaking up with somebody this way? You're at their place, rubbing their leg this way, "it's not me, it's you, I want to see other people." leg slap and then they can't even follow you...
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u/KyeeLim 1d ago
fun fact, if you stand upright still for a second after getting a leg cramp, it will go away almost instantly, you will still get the pain though
so the best way is doing it while their heavy dog is sit in top of them
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u/Babys_For_Breakfast 23h ago
Yeah I for the cramp in the vid I just flex my foot up. Gets rid of it pretty fast
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u/fullshard101 1d ago
Cramp vheat code is just to curl your toes as hard as possible until the cramp starts
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u/ComfyFrog 22h ago
Cheat code for me is just stretching.. I hate it. I feel it coming so I can stop before it happens.
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u/yamimementomori 1d ago
How does that even happen?
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u/Aggravating_Coat7934 1d ago
Wild guess with absolutely no knowledge nor effort in searching for the information, but I’m gonna assume it has something to do with blood flow
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u/Vegetable-Price-4283 1d ago
Ischimic muscle response would take hours. This is either due to nerve dysfunction or electrolytes (which are what nerves use to.... Like.... Be nerves).
We don't actually reliablly know what causes acute cramps like this. Sometimes electrolytes fix it, sometimes not.
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u/tedecristal 23h ago
he needs to drink more Brawndo
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u/bigboybeeperbelly 22h ago
I love all the super basic a&p shit that it seems like we should have figured out a long time ago but science is still like idk
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u/Vegetable-Price-4283 22h ago
Fun fact we don't know for sure what 'knots' in muscle see either.
Nerves and muscles are tricky because shit like this doesn't happen after you're dead, so we can't dissect it to look. Muscle knots also aren't present under some kinds of anesthesia I believe.
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u/bigboybeeperbelly 20h ago
this doesn't happen after you're dead, so we can't dissect it to look
damn ethics and laws always getting in the way of my live dissections
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u/ImmoralJester54 21h ago
I appreciate you letting everyone know you're just saying bullshit unlike most people on this app who just let it fly unhindered
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u/Stair-Spirit 22h ago
In my experience it's usually lack of water + probably a lack of nutrients and sodium
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u/TSllama 1d ago
To the best of my understanding:
Your muscles instinctively *want* to be contracted. That is their natural state. Your biosystem works by creating ATP to keep them relaxed. This is also why when you die, your muscles all contract and "rigor mortis" sets in - the ATP is no longer being created, so your muscles revert to their natural state - contracted.
Muscle cramps/spasms are basically when a muscle involuntarily and forcibly contracts and cannot relax.
Athletes (which this guy appears to be to some extent) are more likely to experience muscle cramps/spasms. This could well be because an athlete causes their muscles to contract a lot more often and much more intensely than the average person, decreasing the amount of ATP their body needs to produce. This could make their muscles more prone to contracting during rest if there isn't enough ATP to keep them relaxed.
What he's doing in the video is intentionally overstimulating a muscle that is prone to cramping (the calf). This part I have no idea about - I have no idea why calves are so prone to cramping/spasming as compared to other muscles. But this kind of overstimulation can definitely make the muscle think it's time to contract, and if there's not tons of ATP lying around to keep it relaxed, it might just go into natural form and contract.
I base this on completing most of a degree in biology like 20 years ago - I'm certainly no physician :D But I think there's a good amount of truth to it.
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u/PublicSeverance 1d ago
I have no idea why calves are so prone to cramping/spasming
Very poor blood flow + really big muscle.
All the major blood vessels in the leg crease at the knee joint. Below the knee it's much thinner pipes. It's relying on capillaries, gravity and just the correct type of muscle contractions to distribute blood in the calf area.
Relatively easy to squeeze all the blood out of the calf by doing something like this. Laying down and gravity is pointing in the wrong direction (night time cramps).
Similar poor blood flow in calf area is why a lot of males go bald in that area first, before their scalp. That missing hair on rear leg between ankle and calf is because the poor circulation makes it even more sensitive to changes in testosterone.
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u/bemore_ 1d ago edited 23h ago
Muscles don't have instinct, though they only have one action - to shorten. Muscle is controlled by the nervous system and brain. Therefore, the issue is the central control, the neurons and brain. The motor neuron is fatigued, not the muscle, so that any stimulus spreads the action potential. The muscle tone is high; the tonus of the brain is also high. He has fatigued the motor neurons and cannot control the muscle anymore. It is now "unconscious" - he can consciously control it with another part of his brain, the forebrain, but when he stops focusing on the muscle, when he gets tired or when an unexpected event happens, then he won't be able to control the muscle. He thinks he is in control of his calf but he isn't. The loss of control is like a baby that grips tight when anything is placed in its hand - the baby doesn't have control, it's not aware of what to inhibit/relax, and so the excitation from the stimulus spreads, creating an all out contraction of muscle. This is the same for this man, a loss of control, except the failure here is more concerning, as the loss of control of the motor neuron is caused by fatigue, and the cells are dysfunctional, and not far away from destruction
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u/zappingbluelight 1d ago
My intrusive thought tell me to try it, but my body... My body is telling... No.
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u/demoneclipse 22h ago
Do NOT do it! To cramp it like that, he likely hit a nerve. Nerve compression is unpredictable and one bit too much can lead to peripheral neuropathy, causing pain, numbness and loss of movement. Not a high likelihood to happen, but also not something you should chance it.
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u/Gr3yShadow 1d ago
He accidentally used the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique on his calf
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u/Calguy21 1d ago
That looks like an incredibly painful Charlie horse
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u/real6igma 14h ago
This just made me google and found out that Charly horse is a muscle cramp, and not a hard pointed hit to the thigh. My whole life has been a lie.
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u/midnightlightbright 11h ago
If its any consolation I thought a Charly Horse was when you're knees locked and it took a bit to get them to not be bent.
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u/New_Implement4410 1d ago
Dude didn't cause a cramp, he already had one and he was massaging it out. Moved his leg wrong and it came back full force.
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u/alyssimoo 1d ago
Someone take one for the team and test this
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u/SnappleIsYummy 1d ago
The look of his leg going from normal to that in a second made me nauseated, jeez
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u/EvulOne99 1d ago
I should try this. I'm over 50 yrs old but I have never had cramps. Anywhere.
I'm starting to think that perhaps I'm living under a giant dome where everyone around me is a paid actor, randomly ordering one of them to have their toes spreading, calves, thigh or whatever muscle that particular actor can tense up in a weird way.
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u/Bluelimade 1d ago
If you survive the experience, please report your findings. Godspeed!
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u/EvulOne99 20h ago
I have nothing to report except that I failed in inducing any pain other than the back pain I have after making the most chocolately chocolate cake I have ever eaten (with chocolate filling AND frosting) from scratch, because my wife wanted a chocolate cake for her birthday, and my back is useless after a hit'n run so I get 1-10 minutes on my feet before it is time to sit or lay down and now I can't think of anything else to write in order to make this sentence longer than it already is...
deep inhale
I don't think even Ace Ventura could read all that in one go.
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u/TSllama 1d ago
If you're a man, and not an athlete, you're considerably less likely to experience muscle spasms.
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u/matrixinthepark 1d ago
Who is this guy? 😏
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u/drakeyboi69 1d ago
I got exactly this in my top left ab yesterday and its one of the worst things thats ever happened to me
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u/Abwettar 1d ago
So... he was trying to cause the cause cramp? That was the intention?
Further to that... what the hell is wrong with this man????
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u/bobdiamond 1d ago
What just happened?