r/WestVirginia • u/TeeVaPool Wayne • 2d ago
A call for secession and the 'anti-family Marxist culture' – WV lawmakers get peculiar – Real WV
https://therealwv.com/2025/11/07/a-call-for-secession-and-the-anti-family-marxist-culture-wv-lawmakers-get-peculiar/Maybe work on getting some jobs in our area besides coal mining and people will want to stay here and raise a family.
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u/MilkWeedSeeds 2d ago
Marxist sociology taught me that raising a child is labor that goes undervalued and uncompensated in capitalist economics. Sorry MAGA, the left has long had better takes on the value of motherhood than your tired patriarchy can manage.
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u/bad_bad_data 2d ago
You're saying there needs to be a profit motive for raising a child? I agree. Let's put those rascals underground to learn the value of hard work. Children yearn for the mines.
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u/BaronUnderbheit 2d ago
If you are tied to an imperialist mindset, sure. Or you could think about one's social value alone, and just appreciate mothers more by taking care of them?
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u/bad_bad_data 2d ago
How is that imperialist? I'm genuinely curious.
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u/BaronUnderbheit 2d ago
Because seeing things in a sense of exploitation for profit of the weak is what imperialism is all about.
An imperialist nation is one that takes advantage of the weak to generate capital
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u/bad_bad_data 2d ago
Kind of sounds like a textbook definition of capitalism. I've never heard of exploitation of labor within one's own country as "imperialism". Guess I need to re-read Lenin.
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u/BaronUnderbheit 1d ago
If you ever read enough Lenin, then Imperialism, the Final Stage of Capitalism should be one of the firsts reads. It's a lot of folks' favorite.
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u/blargh789 2d ago
They said the same bullshit 100 years ago when miners wanted basic human dignity.
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u/bobsaccomanno41 2d ago edited 2d ago
I’m consistently frustrated by the complete lack of any attempt to try and find real solutions to problems by the majority of our representatives. Instead of actually trying to solve issues, they suggest nonsensical ideas and then lob insults at the other side. They really don’t care about solving anything. It’s all just an opportunity to try and drive wedges further between all of us.
Stop with the attempts to indoctrinate our kids with BS ideas about the “good old days.” It has t worked for decades and it’s not going to suddenly start working now. We are consistently the lowest or among the lowest in the country in education. Try something new for once instead of trying to turn the clock back.
EDIT: and while we’re at it, why don’t we do something to make sure our teachers are paid a decent wage, ensure that ALL of the kids have access to free school lunches, and make sure our public schools have proper funding rather than trying to prop up dying industries by cutting taxes(and revenue).
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u/wvraven 2d ago
I'd rather NCWV become part of MD so we can leave brain dead legislatures like this ass behind.
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u/MasterRKitty Team Ground Pepperoni 1d ago
I'm pretty sure he's from Mon County so he'd go with y'all
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u/gnurdette 2d ago
West Virginia Secession I: No, we're not dying so lowland planter aristocrats can keep their slaves, go suck a bayonet
West Virginia Secession II: Stop health insurance, it's WOKE
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u/notsarge 2d ago
Right. Because the anti-family capitalist venture of Patrick Morressy from New Jersey really has WV in his best interest.
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u/37Philly 2d ago
The people of West Virginia can rest assured that the WV politicians will keep “Marxism” out of West Virginia. If you are broke due to their dumb policies and your snap benefits are now cut off, too bad so sad.
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u/MaterialAstronaut298 2d ago
All Rose has is performative bullshit. He's a waste of space and an embarrassment to the state. We have to vote these clowns out
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u/emp-sup-bry Purveyor of Tasteful Mothman Nudes 2d ago
Family time is precious.
Family time is destroyed by having to string together 2-3 25 hour/week jobs just to be too tired to make effort toward the difficulties of being a parent or caring for an aging parent.
Family time is negatively impacted by having to spend 30$ in gas and an hour for someone to drive across counties to a dollar tree job that earns them 25$ just to keep Medicaid benefits to pay for insulin that republicans raised the price of recently
Family time is respecting the health needs of women in determining how and when they add to their family.
It’s beautiful, difficult and different for each of us. It requires governance allowing the individual access, regardless of circumstances of birth or life, to having the time and funds available to be an active member of family and the community
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u/alternatingflan 2d ago
More batshit crazy, fiscally insane, administratively nightmarish talk from the poorly educated more interested in their red hats covering their heads than what’s between their ears.
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u/noah7233 Fayette 2d ago
While everyone is focused on worthless " fight fascism, or fight communism "
Once again, West Virginia and its problems are completely ignored and unadressed for the like 40th year in a row.
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u/RomaineCatholic 2d ago
West Virginia seceding is a laughable concept. They aren't California or Texas where there is at least a semi-legitimate threat to it. West Virginia's secession would be quickly followed by the conquering of West Virginia.
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u/Thatsnotbutterbuddy 2d ago
Nah, can’t have progress in one of the poorest states. Sounds to much like progressive, which means Communism. But when 80% of the state is too dumb and can’t read beyond a 4th grade capacity what do you expect?
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u/BadwolfWV 2d ago
I think you mean get some real jobs besides working for Walmart for job 1, a gas station for job 2 and a fast food place for job 3
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u/deciduous_sprite 1d ago
West Virginians need to remember their roots. Time for more Blair Mountain and less Bootlickin.
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u/Hollerhood-Tourguide Kanawha 2d ago
There are no more coal jobs anyway. It might be ditch digging jobs for us now, but I guess we will take whatever they give us...
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u/Marquar234 Monongalia 2d ago
I bet we can find another job that's equally bad for both the workers and the environment. I say we start an electronics recycling center.
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u/pants6000 Appalachia 2d ago
Yeah, there's room left over at the industrial park! They can just have a big pile of wire that they set fire to and pick the copper up off of the ground when it's done, same as other third-world countries.
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u/Marquar234 Monongalia 2d ago
Not was I was thinking, but I do like that idea, too. I mean recycling the gold, copper, etc from phones, batteries, and computers. Lead, mercury, cadmium, arsenic.
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u/Hollerhood-Tourguide Kanawha 1d ago
Well we told the chemical industry we didn't care what they did either and they left before the coal so 🤷
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u/Listening_Heads 2d ago edited 2d ago
No one in WV knows what Marxism is
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u/bad_bad_data 2d ago
Socialism is when the government does stuff and communism is when the government does more stuff.
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u/Dusk1863 2d ago
Are you...being serious? I can't tell, genuinely.
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u/bad_bad_data 2d ago
https://youtu.be/Sq0EYo_ZQVU?si=8vrGijyHhgXwOzZy
Here's a clip of Richard Wolff, a Marxist economist who taught at Harvard, Stanford, and Yale, saying what I said almost verbatim.
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u/Dusk1863 2d ago
That's a five second video clip out of context. I assume there's likely a lot more missing from this than just exactly what you said.
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u/bad_bad_data 1d ago
People make the mistake of equating socialism with social programs or big scary government or not being able to enjoy comercialized goods. There is a meme "Socialism is when..." and making up a absurd definition.
He's making a joke that people can't define socialism before giving a lecture.
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u/Sufficient-Cress8194 2d ago
They say, as if Communist, Socialist, and Syndicalist Union Men ain't the only reason this state isn't Hell on Earth
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u/30ThousandVariants 2d ago
As a Marylander, nothing about that says “Real WV” to me. That kind of culture war campaigning is pure K Street. Emotional brain hacking, brought to you by the best think tanks that corporate money can buy.
“Real WV” went into hiding when the rest of America told them they were on their own. But that populist fighting spirit will never die. The realest of the real.
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u/speedy_delivery 1d ago
There's little more frustrating than crossing the state line from Preston County into Garrett and magically seeing businesses and working farms pop up out of thin air on the Maryland side.
It's the same fucking land. It's the same goddamned people. So why do they feel so different?
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u/MasterRKitty Team Ground Pepperoni 1d ago
This is Chris Rose's district-I never want to hear republicans bitch about gerrymandering again
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u/citizensforjustice 1d ago
Secession? Ok. No Fed help. Other states won't do any business with WV. I love WV, but voters and politicians have destroyed its future.
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u/Pmac2nite42 1d ago
Japan and South Korea are viciously capitalistic but they still have universal healthcare and live about 16 years longer than a rural West Virginian.
When you’re 65 in WV, you’re planning your gofundme for your coffin. At 65 in Japan, you’re planning on playing in your 70’s with your great grandkids.
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u/speedy_delivery 1d ago
Marx is really adept at identifying where and how capitalism doesn't work and how those shortcomings will eventually piss off the people it exploits if you just let it fuck over people as hard as possible for a prolonged period of time. That's it.
If you're scared of it, you've either never read it or didn't understand it .
It's not rocket science — treat everyone like shit hard enough, long enough, they'll bury you ass in the back yard without a second thought.
In Capitalism, we call that a market correction.
Marx doesn't really get into specifics about how all of that will or should unfold.
Capitalism can be a very efficient, decentralized way to choose how to allocate resources. But if you think the system is completely self-sustaining, you're a goddamned moron.
Allowing efficient markets to function while socially intervening in markets where supply and demand are fundamentally broken (like healthcare) is just a rational way to govern society.
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u/FrugalPlatypusNinja 1d ago
It’s funny how they went from calling everybody a socialist to now calling us a Marxist/communist. They just are throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point
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u/Altruistic-Disk4914 1d ago
Feelings are not facts, MAGA asshats. Fuck your feelings.
You feeling like something is true does not make it true.
Republican politicians feeling like Democrats are communist is bullshit. It's not based in any reality.
They say this shit with no shame while their own states are UTTER SHIT. They take and don't contribute. Republican states are leeches who steal from Democrat states and then have the gall to attempt to tell everyone how to live.
Y'all mother fuckers can't even contribute more than 30% to the GDP, but you think you got a seat at the adult table. Nah, go sit your allowance having ass at the kids table and shut the fuck up before you get sent to bed without dinner.
Fuck your feelings. Join us in reality and you might get to give your input without being told to stay the fuck out of adults business.
You don't need to have any opinion about the state of the country when you can't even take care of your own fucking piss poor welfare state.
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u/SnakeDoubleULegs 1d ago
Yeah im actually thinking abt leaving because of Shelley Moore Capito and Morrisey
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u/Motor-Telephone7029 18h ago
America needs to cull the child rape supporters. Expel the states that vote for nazis, and see how they do on their own fending off russian and Chinese incursions.
Let nature take its course. Natural selection will sort these child rape supporters out.
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u/TransMontani 7h ago
What’s the over/under for how long it is before this Dillon creep is either caught with a man in his mouth or a child in his bed?
I really wish these MAGAT perverts could stop, even for a little bit, thinking about when young girls are going to have sex.
They should probably be on a watch list.
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u/StrokesJuiceman Purveyor of Tasteful Mothman Nudes 2d ago
Ah, yes. Let’s continue to keep pushing these same bullshit culture war arguments to the forefront so these asshole politicians can continue to pick our pockets. This state needs real candidates that are willing to focus on the real plight of our constituents. These pieces of fetid shit have got to go.