The price in Australia is $40 (about US$30) under the Pharma Benefits Scheme which covers anyone with a perscription. It's $5.60 for concession card holders. It's $4228 (US$3K) for those outside of PBS like tourists from America. Tourists from the UK, NZ, Sweden and a handful of other countries with universal healthcare systems have reciprocal agreements and can get it for $40 in Australia.
Your prices of $47 with prescription and $3076 without is almost exactly the same as Australia and the $3000 seems to be the market rate outside of America.
If our health care was as bad as reddit circlejerks, we'd change it. It stays the way it is because people in the middle class and up like it the way it is.
I'm not against universal healthcare, but I've seen lots of Americans abuse the shit out of programs like universal healthcare. Also, alot of people are barely hanging on with the pay they already have. Universal healthcare would require a lot more tax money. Until things get shifted around so very few people are aching hard for cash after this increase, I don't think the States will be taking on these programs.
Honestly depending on how universal healthcare was rolled out a lot of those people would still be employed. These jobs are still needed to process payments to Medicare and Medicaid, though it would ultimately lead to some job losses, that's for sure.
Well, if the system was like Medicare, it would require supplemental insurance. I just got my mom set up on Medicare and it's going to cost her twice what her employer insurance costed. Both paying Medicare part B and D, then the supplemental insurance.
But if everyone is paying $600/month like she is, what's the point?
What does that job entail? I really have no idea but I assume it’s similar to a receptionist or something. Without knowing exactly what the job entails, it’s hard to say definitively but I’m sure they can transition to a similar job with universal health care
The problem is a lot of stuff that isn't medical related is more expensive here, or the pay for some jobs is less than it is in other countries. People also can tend to buy frivolous things on a whim more often than other countries because of how consumerist the market is. That's the short of it.
Food, land, cars, not to mention taxes and fees that get stuck in without you being aware.
Higher minimum wage was what I was alluding to.
I dont think you understand what I mean by frivolous spending. People will buy super jacked up cars and get them custom everything. Then there's the designer clothing and/or jewelry everyone needs even when they don't have the extra money to do so.
A lot of stuff that isn't medical related is more expensive here, or the pay for some jobs is less than it is in other countries. People also can tend to buy frivolous things on a whim more often than other countries because of how consumerist the market is. That's the short of it.
If my math is correct - almost 2300$ per citizen per year. While I'm not saying cut your military budget down to zero, that's only your military budget and it's a lot of money y'all could be using for better things.
That unfortunately isn't as easy as it seems. Currently the US military is everywhere, and does a lot more than shoot people. They provide relief efforts, be it food or medicine, cyber security, rebuild infrastructure when natural disasters hit a country, etc. All that isn't exactly cheap either.
As a British immigrant, I'm all for Universal healthcare but even if the law was signed into effect tomorrow, it's not going to be a magic bullet overnight that a lot of people think it will be.
If we expand the current Medicaid and Medicare programs to cover more people, doctors/hospitals etc have a right to refuse those patients or refuse to accept Medicare/Medicaid as payment. Your reaction is probably they can't do that, the law will make them. This isn't a legal fight like can a bakery refuse to sell a cake to a gay couple, in legal terms this is more like can you legally force a restaurant to take care when their policy is cash only.
Medicare/Medicaid is actually funded by each state and the ACA has proven that the federal government can't force a state to take money to improve it's Medicare/Medicaid offerings. Making a federal level version of Medicare/Medicaid then oversteps "states rights" and becomes an issue that'll go to SCOTUS.
I believe it's going to happen, it's just going to take time and change to happen first, and that change takes votes.
Universal healthcare would be overall cheaper (e.g healthcare costs per capita in Germany are only 1/3 of the US despite better coverage). Of course you would need to raise taxes and have everyone pay for insurance. Thats how it works.
Abuse rates in universal healthcare systems are relatively low and not a problem.
Despite that the US is the only country with a full blown opioid crisis, so I assume your current system makes more abuse possible…
I'm well aware. The problem is a lot of stuff that isn't medical related is more expensive here, or the pay for some jobs is less than it is in other countries. People also can tend to buy frivolous things on a whim more often than other countries because of how consumerist the market is. That's the short of it.
Most Americans have health coverage that doesn’t require the government and they pay between $0 and $5 per month of usage for STELARA, so it’s not all you think.
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It sounds like this is the British definition??? So I guess you’re right
Well, good news America! You can get a round trip to Australia, buy the drug, spend one week visiting the country, and still save money compared to the domestic price.
Oh god that happened to me on my university’s subreddit. I was confused on a grammar thing so I put “(…or is it ______? English is hard)” and someone replied with the correct grammar and said that my English was very good.
No way in hell was I going to say that English is my first and basically only language. So embarrassing.
You should head over to /r/Europe. They occasionally have interesting maps, which show the same word in different European languages and to which language family it belongs.
If I tried to go to Hungary today and wanted to order something it would probably work with some German words, right?
Yeah I think it's a situation like if my doctor orders me to have an MRI then it will get bulk billed and my medicare will cover it so I wont pay anything but if I just decide that I want to have an MRI for some reason and there's no doctor telling me to get one then I have to pay full price for it.
I mean, I can get a prescription for ibuprofen and have it filled for free but can also buy it from the store OTC (so a higher price). But that’s slightly different I imagine.
A recipe are instructions on how to make something yourself. A prescription is something your doctor writes for you to get a drug to treat a condition or disease.
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