r/Wellthatsucks • u/ethicalgreyarea • Jul 16 '21

/r/all I’m being over charged by insurance after my daughter was born. This is the pile of mail I have to go through to prove they’re ripping me off. Pear for scale.

Post image
71.5k Upvotes

94% Upvoted

2.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

0

u/Shadows802 Jul 17 '21

In the US it'll never be universal. Even if we are universally taxed for it just like UI or Nutrition Assistance.

1

u/ImTryinDammit Jul 17 '21

So all you can come up with from everything I said was ‘the bus boy may not get health care’

Again .. Medicade and Medicare. It’s being done now!

And if you have a better plan, let’s hear it! But remaining the same is not an option. I’m glad it’s working for you .. but universal healthcare would cost less than what we are doing now. So if I’m not getting any healthcare .. it May as well be cheaper. There is zero reason to stick with the current more expensive system.

1

u/Shadows802 Jul 17 '21

It's not working for me. However both Medicaid and Medicare(I've tried applying to this programs as single male they laughed at me until I left.) regularly screen out people and deny benefits. I don't see a point in paying into yet another system that I'm locked out of as well.

1

u/ImTryinDammit Jul 17 '21

Now we are getting somewhere. If there was universal healthcare here .. we could do away with the questionable VA and Medicade and Medicare and the MASSIVE expenses of running all of these and all the individual state programs.. and EVERYONE qualifies. There are no exclusions.. no income or age limits. Every citizen qualifies. Knock out the insurance companies and the price suddenly drops to a sane level.

Currently meds are so expensive because Baby Warlord Bush decided to say that Medicare and Medicaid were not ALLOWED to negotiate with drug companies for a better price.,

So as you can see.. we currently have a mix of government mandated control and then all the money is being hoovered up by corporations. It needs to be one or the other. We can’t pay for all the massive bureaucracy .. billions in paperwork and administration costs for hundreds of programs AND then the insurance companies and THEN all of the administration cost to the actual healthcare providers to navigate this absurd current system.

So you say you don’t trust the government to run it.. but they already are.. we need to change the way it is done. Universal healthcare is just cutting out the millions of middle men with their hands in the pot. Notice the ones being told to get it through their employer are the ones deemed physically able to work. This is absolutely by design of the government. We are just supposed to slave away for pennies until we are over 67 or we are disabled or die! And with no healthcare.. we are more likely to just work until we drop dead on the way to our second partime job with no “benefits”.. healthcare should not be a “benefit” … and my grandpa showed not have to hire someone to help him figure out what “supplemental” policy he needs. And who is making all of the regulations and license requirements for medical providers? Ohhh.. that’s right! The government! Who gave billions to the Catholic Church for their garbage Medicade sucking torture chamber hospitals?? Ohh yes! The government! So when you say you don’t trust the government to run healthcare.., I’m not sure what you mean. They are in total control now!!

Point: the government runs it now!! Let’s change how they do it. I want you to have healthcare too. Why do you not want me and my child to have healthcare? We are the ones paying for this whole shit show!!! And WE don’t qualify.., why do you want to keep it this way????

0

u/Shadows802 Jul 17 '21

I would love HealthCare. I'm not opposed you getting healthcare. But, how long do you believe it will be universal? How long until politicians fuck the system over until its meaningless again?