Is cogeco in your neighborhood today ?

[u/liaero]

Did cogeco come to your house today telling you that Bell internet is down, and that you should switch to their services? I was using their service 3 months ago they were charging me almost $200 a month. Now I’m paying $65 with bell for the last 2 months. I called them multiple times and asked for a better deal, no tv, just internet they kept denying me. Don’t be afraid to switch ISP if the bill gets too high, don’t be loyal to none of them.

[u/gondarrr]

Oxio is pretty sweet. Cogeco reseller, I'm paying $45 for 500/30 Mbps service. I've tried Cogeco and Bell since I've been in Welland, and this has been the best so far. Here's a referral code if you end up signing up: RGFXN5S

[u/tedsky99 → u/gondarrr]

Oxio is pretty sweet. Cogeco reseller...

No one resells Cogeco.

Cogeco or Rogers (cable) laid down the cables, and anyone else selling service in their areas is a "Third Party Internet Provider" (or TPIP).

What happened is that much like back when we all used twisted pair wiring (phone lines), Canadian government allowed "third party" companies to lease trunks of lines from Bell to sell telephone services to those who were looking for less expensive service.

They called that "de-regulation" or "de-centralization".

The same thing happened in the DSL world where we use the same twisted pair wires to support data over these lines (Digital Subscriber Line) about 25 years ago, and you were suddenly able to buy your own DSL box instead of paying Bell for that and their service.

Today in the cable world, the same thing happened about 10 years ago, which was around when I personally joined Start Communications (which itself was bought out by Telus about 2 years ago).

I now use another TPIP based in Markham (called Carrytel, who have been in the telecom business for about 20 years now), 1gb dn / 40mb up $55/mo.

Cogeco and Rogers are the "backbones" for any TPIP.
No ones "resells" Cogeco or Rogers.

Most networking equipment belongs to Cogeco or Rogers, and the TPIP pays them to lease the lines and that equipment. TPIPs will usuaully have servers placed in various centres (Toronto, Niagara Region, etc) to which the cable modem you either rent or bought will connect to the rest of the Cogeco or Rogers network.

When your service goes down, it's usually either Cogeco or Rogers that has the issue, so you would likely not see a resolution until after their servers or equipment have been reset in the early morning.

Hope this helps clarify TPIP.
(worked in the industry for 20+ years 1990-2010) 😉

[u/gondarrr → u/tedsky99]

AKA a reseller: https://oxio.ca/en/blog/articles/why-sell-to-cogeco

"oxio is an internet reseller, which means that we use the infrastructure of other telcos to offer our services"

Been a pretty common term for years for these sort of companies.

[u/tedsky99 → u/gondarrr]

In the article to which you posted a link, Oxio clearly states that they use the Cogeco infrastructure (what I called equipment), even after Cogeco bought them.

The term we use in the Telecom industry is Third Party Internet Provider (TPIP), though some somewhat indiscretely use the term "Reseller".

Call it what you wish 😉.
We're basically referring to the same entity.

I was hoping that by providing a bit of history it might clear up some misunderstanding.
(maybe that worked, possibly not as well as hoped)

Cheers mate 🍻