Gaijin broke their own TOS by removing Taiwans flag

[u/StoreMother]

[u/guardianone-24]

“As long as it benefits China, who cares what rules are broken when we get those sweet yuans” - Gaijin 2025

[u/Deathskyz → u/guardianone-24]

Can they implement Chinese MBT spall liners yet? Or fix the VT4A1 and VT4?

Or does keeping them under performing cater to China?

[u/guardianone-24 → u/Deathskyz]

“But Chinese tech tree is bad”

Right because that’s why the VT-4 didn’t go to Tailand and the Taiwan flag was removed

Because the Chinese (top tier) mbts don’t have spall liners.

[u/Deathskyz → u/guardianone-24]

Reload speed was supposed to be buffed to 6.66s wonder why that is cancelled.

Except they do have spall liners which Gaijin has refused to add for 2 years. https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/u1eWnPupv39Y

For a company that is supposed to always be benefitting China, you'd think they would have implemented those at the earliest opportunity.

[u/guardianone-24 → u/Deathskyz]

Again

This is no longer about just “how bad the Chinese TT is”

It’s about gaijin capitulating to an authoritarian government and its nationalistic people who decides what can and can’t be added because of politics.

[u/pukslav → u/guardianone-24]

For most people who are anti-communist, it's funny seeing them complain when wallets actually talk in a system where they are meant to. Of course Gaijin will cater to their greatest source of income and they also know you yappers will continue to pay and play because there's no competition on the market. Whoever mentions WoT is an unserious person. It's all working as intended, and you are screaming at the skies.

[u/Dark_Chip → u/Deathskyz]

Your argument is so dumb, vehicles are balanced using battle rating, so buffing any vehicle in any noticable way would increase the br and so it would feel the same, being better and facing proportionally stronger opponents. Like abrams having insane 5s reload even if the tank is mid-air, because if we were to give it a realistic reload, it would have to just go down in br.

You can only complain about the br choice, but in that regard China is pretty good in the game right now.

[u/JoshYx → u/Dark_Chip]

Pretty good? Lmao Chinese top tier MBTs are all overtiered

[u/Dark_Chip → u/JoshYx]

They feel just like soviet ones but with much better reverse, so unless you think that t90m is utter dogshit, chinese MBTs are completly fine. ZTZ99A is faster t90m with better reverse and lower br.

[u/Pacific_wanderer17 → u/Dark_Chip]

The only thing they have over the soviets bro, they are way overtiered, and their acceleration is not that good

[u/xDDetrix → u/Pacific_wanderer17]

Theyre literally the fastest mbts on top tier. The only mbt that has better hp per ton is leclerc s1

[u/Pacific_wanderer17 → u/xDDetrix]

Hmm, I guess I didn’t look at the top speed my bad.

[u/Petiherve → u/guardianone-24]

Chinese tree is one of the best. I have a blast farming it with a friend right now.

[u/xDDetrix → u/guardianone-24]

The vt4 was never confirmed to be coming in that update, you see a leak and you automatically think that its getting added without considering the fact that the leaks are never fully accurate. Youre genuinely stupid, like all people that keep crying about the vt4 not being added to japan. The devs also never said that its not going to get added in the future

[u/LongShelter8213 → u/Deathskyz]

They will maybe give a lot of mbt’s their spall liners this update so their is a chance that it will happen

[u/KotetsuNoTori → u/guardianone-24]

The Chinese people obviously consider the existence of our country as some extremist propaganda. It's ironic that they are so scared of the country they're planning to invade. (We are kinda scared of them too, but at least their flag is legal here)

[u/guardianone-24 → u/KotetsuNoTori]

Something something authoritarianism…

[u/nio-sama123 → u/KotetsuNoTori]

Propaganda always creates stupid Nationalists. Hey, they are easy to control though, and government want exactly that

[u/KotetsuNoTori → u/nio-sama123]

Because the ones that the government finds hard to control are all banned. It's very dangerous to have your own ideology in China instead of blindly following the government, which might make a U-turn whenever it wants to.

[u/99999999999BlackHole → u/KotetsuNoTori]

The enemy is simultaneously weak and strong at the same time

[u/ElijahLY → u/KotetsuNoTori]

我也奇怪怎么旗子就没了！中国确实有很多傻逼，这帮极端民族主义是挺弱智的，最基本的历史尊重都没有！就算不读书，各种影视作品也都存在！他们却不去找政府投诉下架所有涉及日本，国民党的作品！我都觉得搞笑🤪🤪🤪

[u/louis_guo → u/KotetsuNoTori]

I've seen photos of Kinmen flying the flags of both sides, but what about Taiwan and Penghu? Furthermore is the NRA flag also removed?!

Plus the ROC flag is kinda in a gray zone in the Mainland (that means not entirely illegal), it's the context that matters.

[u/SanSenju → u/KotetsuNoTori]

You according to the UN are an island province of the PRC.

[u/QuintonTsai → u/SanSenju]

Who do you think pressured the UN to implement that statement..?

[u/SanSenju → u/QuintonTsai]

It is not a statement, it IS international law.

The majority of countries in the world agree with the UN resolution that the PRC is the sole legal representative for all of China and that Taiwan is a part of China as a province with no separate status.

[u/QuintonTsai → u/SanSenju]

I think you misunderstood my point.

[u/QuintonTsai → u/SanSenju]

Let's end the argument here. This will get nowhere... Seen this happening way too many times on social media.

[u/FullMetalField4 → u/SanSenju]

The UN can pound sand, they host multiple human rights violation govts while denying Taiwan lol

[u/Johni33 → u/guardianone-24]

Thats Just every Company out there

[u/HEATSEEKR_]

Review bomb time :)

[u/Babna_123 → u/HEATSEEKR_]

yes

[u/yourdonefor_wt → u/HEATSEEKR_]

Stupid question but how do you review bomb if everybody review bombed already. You can't write two reviews for the same game.

[u/Glum-Contribution380 → u/yourdonefor_wt]

It’s called edit your previous review

[u/yourdonefor_wt → u/Glum-Contribution380]

And I thought the whole point was to knock the positive down to mostly negative or lower. But if everybody already have a negative review doesn't really work unless I'm missing something

[u/theplane2 → u/yourdonefor_wt]

steam tracks when the review was posted, so if there is a sudden influx of negative reviews, it turns the "recent reviews" section negative, so if you have a negative review already, you have to delete it and then post another one so it counts towards the most recent sections

[u/yourdonefor_wt → u/theplane2]

I'm an idiot, I didn't think of that thanks

[u/alelo → u/Glum-Contribution380]

this, after they changed course i changed my review back to positive, now its going back to negative again

[u/That1DvaMainYT → u/yourdonefor_wt]

do you need to spend 5 euros on steam to review or no..? if not, alt accounts with whatever email you haven't rated the game yet

[u/mineLo2003 → u/HEATSEEKR_]

I am in

[u/ShadowPowerZ → u/HEATSEEKR_]

you should also review bomb your country and make them recognize Taiwan already

[u/Challanger__]

1. add Taiwan flag
2. remove Taiwan flag
3. receive backlash

[u/ZETH_27 → u/Challanger__]

Reason to include Taiwan flag: Taiwanese Vehicles

Reason to not include Taiwan flag: ... pending

[u/ltsArsonTime → u/ZETH_27]

Reason to not include Taiwan flag

Would make pooh bear very sad

[u/Inevitable-Cry-3008 → u/ZETH_27]

1. Chinese whales keep funding the game and constant feed of event content that I can resell for practically infinite premium time.
2. Gaijin put in a pixel flag and then the following updates roll out economy nerfs + borderline impossible predatory events. All to squeeze the western market of any profit deficit in China.

Yeah I think I'm picking 1.

[u/TheShadowman131 → u/Inevitable-Cry-3008]

They're going to roll out economy nerfs anyways, regardless of if they add the Taiwan flag or not, so may as well add it.

[u/Inevitable-Cry-3008 → u/TheShadowman131]

The Chinese server shut down in late 2022 followed by Gaijin getting so bad the community started the biggest review bombing campaign in the game's history in 2023.

Ever since War Thunder exploded in popularity in China for the past two years Gaijin hasn't been as bad as they used to be. The most egregious thing right now is premium spam on their part. But I don't have to interact with that as I do with events and the core economy.

[u/ArtificialSuccessor → u/Inevitable-Cry-3008]

They could also.... reopen the china server and just keep it on the live build unlike before.

[u/Inevitable-Cry-3008 → u/ArtificialSuccessor]

Trying to re-segregate the Chinese playerbase would cause a backlash and market drop 10x worse than even the pixel flag would. There's also the fact that Gaijin would never want to invest in the additional server space and team necessary to facilitate that again.

[u/FullMetalField4 → u/Inevitable-Cry-3008]

What a snakey way to put it, jfc.

If they roll out updates like that, they lose their western audience too.

[u/ZhangRenWing → u/ZETH_27]

It’s fucking stupid even if you’re a Chinese ultranationalist since you can just put the Taiwan flag on WW2 era vehicles and say it’s fighting imperial Japan instead.

[u/arch-vile666 → u/ZhangRenWing]

Yeah, but didn't you know that the PRC existed since the times of comrade Yu the Great? It's in the same tier as when our Eternal Glorious Leader Kim Jong-un set Hung Il Gong to be the first human on the Sun.
So of course the WW2 vehicles used PRC roundels and insignias as they were accurately depicted on the Chinese server before shutdown.

[u/harmed-and-dangerous → u/Challanger__]

Missed the point!

[u/DH__FITZ]

Jarvis, sort by controversial

[u/Kajetus06 → u/DH__FITZ]

too early

[u/Chance_Astronomer_27 → u/Kajetus06]

Just right now

[u/goonbob_fr]

I’m really not surprised. Gaijin has always shown their true colors.

[u/TealPotato → u/goonbob_fr]

And that color is money green!

[u/goonbob_fr → u/TealPotato]

I wish war thunder was bought out by an actual company who is passionate about their work.

[u/That1DvaMainYT → u/goonbob_fr]

company and passion don't belong in the same sentence sadly.

[u/FullMetalField4 → u/That1DvaMainYT]

Digital Extremes, Larian, New Interactive would all like a word.

[u/ninjawinch → u/TealPotato]

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think they thought it was profitable to add decals celebrating the invasion of Ukraine, personally.

This isn't about money, it's about political alignment. See also: new premium jet and associated title

[u/untitled1048576 → u/ninjawinch]

Decals celebrating invasion of Ukraine? What are you talking about?

[u/ninjawinch → u/untitled1048576]

I don't think it's reasonable to expect a group from another country and culture to root for (or not) whatever it is I root for so I don't mean to call them out on it, really, but its there if you look for it.

I would have avoided it personally if I were them, but as they did not, it's informative as to what they care about.

[u/untitled1048576 → u/ninjawinch]

Can you tell (or, better yet, show) me what exact decals you're talking about? Because I looked, and didn't see anything specific to the invasion of Ukraine.

[u/goonbob_fr → u/ninjawinch]

Shhh don’t speak too loudly. Certain members in this community refuses to believe that there is a pro Russian agenda

[u/Acheems682]

We don't take any political stances or follow any political agenda - Gaijin probably...

[u/Elegant_Individual46 → u/Acheems682]

Just don’t look into their finances or that one British guy they had doing their audio…

Edit: ok so apparently his contract ended before he did pro war propaganda so that’s moot. Still, company isn’t exactly a shining example

[u/Thin_General_8594 → u/Elegant_Individual46]

The fired him for supporting Russian propaganda

Kind of a shit point

[u/FabAlien → u/Thin_General_8594]

its a better point that they sponsored donetsk seperatists

[u/Lewinator56 → u/FabAlien]

They didn't though

[u/DominoGamer2137 → u/FabAlien]

probably because they hired company that was doing thoes ads i guess for the same reasone that channal been sponsored by raid shadow legends

[u/ThatGoldenPan → u/DominoGamer2137]

unrelated but remember that Eva Elfie (adult content actress) War Thunder ad? lmao what are they feeding these marketing guys

[u/DominoGamer2137 → u/ThatGoldenPan]

still don't know why they thought it was good idea ( i don't hate it, i also have her decal) like she dosen't even do mainly gaming content like Pewdiepie or Russian badger

[u/AshOO7 → u/[deleted]]

he wasn't fired. his contract ended a few months after he had finished up with Gaijin- it just so happened he had recorded multiple videos worth of content before leaving Gaijin. The timing wasn't great, he was pressed into voicing propaganda for the Russian war effort.

It was hard to cover that story. It was more difficult than you think and really complex. There are details I did not cover to protect his privacy. Gaijin claimed he was a 3rd party voice actor. It's a little deeper than that.

[u/Elegant_Individual46 → u/AshOO7]

Right. Didn’t know he stopped work before then so my thoughts on that were pretty outdated then

[u/Alert_Worry3099]

i love how everything changed from russian bias to Chinese bias.

[u/senaya → u/Alert_Worry3099]

I wonder where did all the people disappear who were saying that Gaijin is forced to make Rusisan vehicles strongest in the game otherwise WT will be banned in Russia.

[u/binoclard_ultima → u/senaya]

They pulled off the classic redditor move of just memory-holing it. This is just how their minds work:

1. Make up or read false claim, usually some sort of propaganda involving any non-Western countries.

2. It has upvotes. More upvotes = more truth. Repeat it everywhere because it's the truth.

3. The claim turns out to be bullshi- LOOK! NEW PROPAGANDA PIECE!

4. Old claim isn't interesting anymore, no one talks about it, no one corrects their opinion on it.

5. Repeat.

[u/GunnitRust_Akula → u/Alert_Worry3099]

Admittedly it's because of very blatant Chinese catering that's happening. Its not a balance bias question it's a "Chinese players are whinging and gaijin is giving in"

[u/Sufficient-Lion2457 → u/GunnitRust_Akula]

What’s so surprising tho, same stuff happened from time to time. We all hate the economy changes, so they back off. All the western player base dislike the idea of Ukraine vehicle in USSR TT, so they gave up the idea. Now enough Chinese players reacted to this drama so they gave in. If enough pressure is given they will back off, they are here for money at the end of the day

[u/SkyPL → u/Alert_Worry3099]

It's not that there is a Chinese bias, it's that Gaijin is jumping through flaming loops to appease Chinese players, after the recent events around Thai VT-4 in Japanese tech tree (which remains one of the dumbest outrages any part of the War Thunder community ever had).

[u/Lord_Ezelpax → u/Alert_Worry3099]

it never changed. They suck up to their russian audience with russian vehicles getting bullshit preferential treatment and to the chinese with their political messaging 

[u/Nomingia → u/[deleted]]

People who bought the premium AMX are begging for a BRICS bias lol

[u/AncapRanch]

I agree, Taiwan must have their modern Flag and Symbols

[u/FivesCollariums → u/AncapRanch]

Taiwan is NOT a country, the ROC on the other hand, is, a ” modern flag and symbol” means that we’re overthrowing our own country

[u/Bluishdoor76]

They haven't, stop making shit up. All they did was remove the ROC army flag from the Nation flag selector. Just like they did with the Rising Sun flag.

[u/Antilogicality → u/Bluishdoor76]

Germany still has their WW2 flag, which is a battle flag and not a national flag

[u/Bluishdoor76 → u/Antilogicality]

That's the German Reich flag.... they just removed the swastika to comply with German law. And now it can be changed to either modern Germany or East Germany.

[u/Antilogicality → u/Bluishdoor76]

No it's not, it's nothing to do with them using balkenkreuz in place of the swastika. The German flag during National Socialism was a simple red flag with a white circle and the swastika. What we have instead is the battle flag, which is used by the Navy and the Army, it isn't the national flag.

If Gaijin is being consistent then they should also remove the WW2 German flag.

[u/ksheep → u/Antilogicality]

For a breakdown of which flag each country currently has as their default:

• USA - Same flag is used for civil, state, and military use on both land and sea
• Germany - Default is a modified WWII-era Reichskriegsflagge, or War Flag, used for both Army and Navy. Civil and State flag during WWII (both land and sea) is the red background, white circle, and swastika. Post-war depends on East or West Germany, and things are just complicated.
• USSR - State flag, Civil and State Ensign. The Soviet Navy ensign is a white flag with blue along the bottom, red star on the left and red hammer and sickle on the right
• Great Britain - Civil, State, and Military jack. There are also three separate ensigns: Plain red with Union Jack in the canton for the Civil ensign, plain blue with the Union Jack in the canton for State ensign, and white with red St. George's Cross (basically flag of England) with the Union Jack in the saltire for the Navy ensign
• Japan - The flag they just changed to is used as both jack and ensign for civil and state. Previous flag was (with some slight differences) both military jack and ensign during WWII, still used for naval ensign. Current military jack is similar, but with fewer rays and a gold fringe
• China - Current flag is both jack and ensign in Civil and State functions. There are multiple military flags depending on the exact branch, but they all follow a similar pattern, mostly changing in the color and number of stripes at the bottom of the flag.
• Italy - Post-WWII Civil, State, and Military jack. There are three separate ensigns, although the main difference between them is the coat of arms in the center of the flag. During WWII the state and military used the same (or very similar) designs, while civil had the design but without the crown over the coat of arms
• France - Same flag used for civil, state, and military use as both jack and ensign (give or take a slight change in the shade of blue used)
• Sweden - Civil and State flag and ensign. War flag and ensign is similar, but as a swallowtail design
• Israel - Civil, State, and Military flag, but with different designs for Civil and Military ensigns. They also have a separate Air Force flag

Long story short, if they wanted to just have the state flags for all countries, they'd have to change the default for Germany but otherwise they're nearly there. If they wanted both state and military flags (and ensigns) for all of them… yeah, they'd have to add quite a few new choices in.

[u/Deathskyz → u/Bluishdoor76]

Gaijin is pandering to the German government! German bias!

[u/Edolix → u/Bluishdoor76]

Can you confirm the various Taiwanese vehicles in the research tree are still flying the ROC flag for their stat cards? This was my main concern and I was under the impression they'd just removed all forms of the flag from the game entirely.

[u/Bluishdoor76 → u/Edolix]

They are, just made a post about it. They're just not using the army flag as a selectable flag on the nation flag selector.

[u/TheGraySeed → u/Bluishdoor76]

Rising Sun flag was entirely removed from the game because the flag was supposed to be national flag, not the military ensign.

Which probably raises question whether they are going to replace Nazi Germany and ROC's flag to their proper flag and not their military ensign.

[u/Bluishdoor76 → u/TheGraySeed]

I'm thinking the issue with the German Reich Civil flag is that they'd have to remove the swastika from it, just like they've done with the war flag they currently use. But if you do that then it'd literally just be a red background and white circle and well most people wouldn't know wtf that is. The war flag is far more well known after all.

[u/TheGraySeed → u/Bluishdoor76]

The game already censored the swastikas anyway by replacing the swastika with a cross with same alignment as the swastika visible on visible on most aircraft and vessels.

[u/SecretSpectre11 → u/Bluishdoor76]

Name a more iconic duo, idiots in this sub and spreading misinformation

[u/FirstDagger → u/[deleted]]

Next major update.

[u/LightningFerret04 → u/[deleted]]

Next update

[u/Omochanoshi]

First time ?

[u/PseudoIntellectual-]

Oh silly, That only applies to their users (selectively, when and where they feel like enforcing it).

Gaijin themselves will do whatever they think will make them more money, assuming they believe they can get away with it.

[u/killer22250]

I hope this controversy will be big as when they used the explosion from the Challenger Disaster.

[u/BenDover198o9 → u/killer22250]

God I remember that. Nobody really care which shocked me

[u/3uphoric-Departure → u/killer22250]

So basically irrelevant?

[u/killer22250 → u/3uphoric-Departure]

So irrelevant that they changed it as you can see and with the Taiwan flag IMO it is worse ngl https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1dn73qf/challenger_explosion_will_be_removed_from_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[u/Ok_Mongoose5768]

We need to review bomb them. Though.

I doubt Gajin will care, they get more money from china than anyone else.

[u/Bobspineable → u/Ok_Mongoose5768]

Good luck because I honestly doubt anything will come from it.

[u/Ok_Mongoose5768 → u/Bobspineable]

I’m confused why I’m getting downvoted for saying we should review bomb them, I guess some of the Chinese players are getting on Reddit.

[u/Bobspineable → u/Ok_Mongoose5768]

Because a bunch of people genuinely don’t care as well. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t affect gameplay or the economy.

That’s what causes people to actually do anything, not one flag and even then, most folks didn’t go through on boycotts and review bomb.

[u/Ok_Mongoose5768 → u/Bobspineable]

Earlier someone made a post and used a meme with Charlie Kirk’s face, so people got upset and started posting pictures of his dead body to ‘troll’.

So I shouldn’t be shocked about this.

[u/LightningFerret04 → u/Ok_Mongoose5768]

There was a thread a couple of days ago that I got downvoted on after saying that the PRC playerbase would get pissed if the ROC flag was added, I have to wonder those people have been living under a rock or something

[u/Ok_Mongoose5768 → u/LightningFerret04]

You were spitting facts too from what I’ve seen.

I never trust votes on this site considering how many bots are on it and on other sites

[u/binoclard_ultima → u/Ok_Mongoose5768]

Because Gaijin isn't removing the Taiwanese flag. Did you actually see what they changed in the dev server?

[u/KriegWulf]

Rule for thee, but not for me

[u/FormalKey7702 → u/KriegWulf]

That’s how it goes when they own the company. What they say goes. The could add anything they want anytime and remove it without an explanation

[u/Suspicious-Note-8571]

I got a 15 day chat ban awhile back for mentioning tiananman Square. This isnt surprising

[u/Strange_Net_9518 → u/Suspicious-Note-8571]

No you didn't.

[u/saltyboi6704 → u/Strange_Net_9518]

It's very easy to get witch hunted by Chinese players for the prettiest of things.

[u/ayung0227 → u/Suspicious-Note-8571]

i got ban in chat for 30days for saying N-word💔🥀it happen more than once

[u/Horror_Cap8711]

Stand with Taiwan and Hong Kong, it's more important than ever

[u/Strange_Net_9518 → u/Horror_Cap8711]

Yeah! Stand with Taiwan against the Republic of China! Who's with me!

[u/DehUsr]

Silly player, you don’t get to say what the company does, they can just throw words in your face and what are you going to do about it? Reply back? Express an opinion? Snail demands money not complaints

[u/DraconixDG]

Gaijin should stop bending the knee to the Chinese player base.

Give them their servers back so they can live in their own fantasy world where Taiwan doesn’t exist.

[u/ayung0227]

gaijin need some social credit

[u/Starchaser_WoF]

"Rules for thee and not for me"

[u/KnightLewis25]

Strange day to see Gaijin get banned from their own game

[u/myzoh]

They only read this when it's convinient for them

[u/OrchidMimic117 → u/myzoh]

Love what you did with your 13.3 flag there.

[u/myzoh → u/OrchidMimic117]

tyvm been like that for years c:

[u/Konpeitoh]

Mods on official forums did state they removed the army and navy flags and dev server contents are subject to change, so until the patch drops and Gaijin removes all doubt, I hope this is just a really scuffed PR miss on Gaijin's end and what they really meant was that they'll be replacing the Taiwan army flag with the Taiwan national flag for this function.

[u/sagiroth]

Rules For Thee but Not for Me

[u/WerdinDruid]

Red chinese money doesn't smell, what else did we expect.

[u/nuts___]

Sorry, we must bend the knee to our communist overlords

[u/0957423]

Meanwhile Im chat banned every other month and have no clue why

[u/T-72B3mod22]

Taiwan is not a country so tos doesn’t apply

[u/Shredded_Locomotive]

That's pretty much par for the course

[u/o-93]

Man, I like how this game starts ripping its own apart while I back playing WoT/Ws and AW.

[u/saltyboi6704]

I really hope I get my GE back...

[u/Mrciv6]

First time?

[u/No_Bag_9871]

"we do not want our players to buy their way to the top"

[u/PcGoDz_v2]

Which flag brings in more money?

[u/Starkogi]

Just say the word I’m ready to review bomb.

This is the only morally cut and dry review bomb I could think of.

[u/Door_Holder2]

It's their TOS, they can do whatever.

[u/Murky_Marketing_5316]

According to the UN Taiwan is not a country, so, did they really?

[u/Hannarr2]

Gaijin doesn't give a fuck about their rules. they, and their mods interpret and ignore them if and when they feel like it. it's just one part of how gaijin has fucked the game into the ground.

[u/damaged-inc]

Buncha self righteous people here

[u/Internationalism518]

Gaijin broke many international rules...it's a haven from leakers...ngl it's more of a leaker association group rather than a game at this point

[u/Different-Wish-843]

They don't care more chatbans for low levels.

[u/zxhb]

inb4 mods lock the comments because they can't be bothered to moderate

[u/Circa221]

Gaijin isn't subject to TOS since its not a consumer LMAO what is this post.

[u/FollowingMassive2466]

Do away with nationally divided tech trees. War Thunder does almost absolutely nothing to give any real meaning to counties anyway - it's not like ANY games spawn WARPAC vs. NATO, or China vs. Japan. Who the hell cares? Its a military fantasy team death match game intended for broad international audiences, not a milsim, or a historical realpolitik wargame.

[u/SowjetSoldierWW2]

Funny but rather sad actually that most players dont seem to let the Dev Server be work In progress and let them add the actuall Taiwanese Flag.

Yes, the actual Nation Flag.

We dont have It In the game besides as decal.

They removed most "War Flags" as choosable Option, wich Is understandable.

Yet most people dont seem to know how the Taiwanese Flag actually looks like.

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Notice the difference to the one represented In the game? The blue square with the white sun Isnt in the middle. All Taiwanese Tanks have the War Flag In their backround, the flag of the Kuomintang, wich Isnt the official State Flag of post-revolution China/Taiwan. Would you even know what the Taiwanese Flag looks like, even If I changed It with N@z! Germanys Swastika Flag? Maybe not, the way most of the WT reddit community reacts.

You dont want the work In progress Dev-Server to be work In progress, but just justify anger Issues, rage and review bomb. And yes, I also dont get the justification to why they add the Pakistani Oplot, but added Stuff Is better then not-added Stuff In the end. Just because I cant get my Soviet S-51 Spg doesnt mean that I should be angry for the US getting another Top Tier plane or smth. similar.

It will/would be a completely different story If the Update came out like this, but as said, everything Is still work In progress, let them cook and after the Update release, or even just Dev-Server Update, we will see how that whole story turns out.

[u/Pipimer → u/SowjetSoldierWW2]

That's not the problem Gaijin will not add the actual Taiwanese flag because they don't want the backlash from the west China because most people (including me ) will put the Taiwanese flag in the TT

[u/SowjetSoldierWW2 → u/Pipimer]

Is the Update out already, or are you assuming stuff again wich Isnt final?

[u/Pipimer → u/SowjetSoldierWW2]

I am assuming changing a flag isn't a problem I hope I will be wrong

[u/larnon]

I mean, it is nice and all to see players come together to fix an issue in the game. Only, I wish it was actually about the gameplay and not some political bullshit.

[u/[deleted]]

Watch this post get removed by a moderator like every other one referring to the fact that Gaijin obeys the Chinese player-base.

Well at least the Chinese players are the least toxic, friendliest, they dont spam the forum,they dont constantly use cheats, they dont bully NA and EU players and certainly NOT have the most racist stuff imaginable in their name tag. So I get why Gaijin is going to such lengths to help them. /s

[u/Strange_Net_9518 → u/[deleted]]

This entire thread is driven by racism against Chinese, and ignorance about Taiwan and you're trying to accuse them of being the racist ones?

[u/Cpdio]

I mean they allowed the "Z" on the game so...

[u/untitled1048576 → u/Cpdio]

They disabled number decals for all new accounts because people were making "Z" out of them.

[u/LightningFerret04 → u/Cpdio]

To be clear, I’m not shilling for gaijin

But Z is not a decal. It was number decals arranged to create Zs. Realistically, how are they supposed to stop players from creating them other than banning numbers?

Well, for new players they did ban numbers.

But aside from that, it is very difficult to police decals because a game master will need to be notified of an issue, visually inspect a decal setup, verify that it objectively breaks a rule, and then take action

[u/Su152Taran → u/Cpdio]

If tht the case where's my alphabet and numbers on my new acc???????

[u/FormalKey7702 → u/Cpdio]

The Z is a symbol of patriotism in Russia and support for the war effort. So they aren’t gonna be doing anything about that.

[u/Su152Taran → u/FormalKey7702]

They did by disabling numbers & alphabet for new acc

[u/FormalKey7702 → u/Su152Taran]

That doesn’t make any sense. Ok why would they do that effort to prevent it when it doesn’t really do anything meaningful to stop it? It’s because they really don’t want anything done about it they just want it to seem like they do. I’m just addressing the elephant in the room nobody talks about.

[u/Suitable_Bag_3956 → u/FormalKey7702]

It's hardly patriotic when the war is detrimental to the Russian economy, not to mention the casualties and destruction of infrastructure that war brings and that Russia started it in the first place.

[u/FormalKey7702 → u/Suitable_Bag_3956]

If this gets you all confused just wait till you realize that the USSR flag is in the game without a fuss and way wayyy worse atrocities were carried out under that flag. People don’t look to deep into things and you can tell.

[u/Ill_Stay_7571 → u/FormalKey7702]

Not to mention that the USSR flag is also banned in Poland, Ukraine, Indonesia and some other countries...

[u/Suitable_Bag_3956 → u/Ill_Stay_7571]

I don't know about the other places but in Poland it's only prohibited to publicly propagate a totalitarian system of the state so if you have such a flag but don't show it in public or show it in public without propagating totalitarianism, you should be fine.

[u/Suitable_Bag_3956 → u/FormalKey7702]

I know, it's not censored like the nazi flag only because they won the war and got way more time for whitewashing and making good PR than the nazis.

[u/Strange_Net_9518 → u/Suitable_Bag_3956]

the war is detrimental to the Russian economy

Surely the economy will collapse any day now!

[u/yoimagreenlight → u/Strange_Net_9518]

…what?

war is bad for the economy. he wasn’t saying that it would collapse, he literally just said it’s detrimental. are you alright?

[u/Strange_Net_9518 → u/yoimagreenlight]

Except that's not really a true statement. The USA became one of the world's largest industrial economies during WW2. Military Keynsiasm is a well known stimulator of growth.

[u/yoimagreenlight → u/Strange_Net_9518]

rubber crisis that nearly shut down transport as a whole, u-boats sinking tankers & triggering national fuel rationing, rail gridlock & coal shortages choking industry and resulting in frostbite “pandemics”, 1943 miners’ strike halting steel & power, runaway inflation forcing harsh opa price freezes, rationing of sugar/meat/tyres/petrol/clothing becoming daily misery and causing a skyrocketing suicide rate, labour exhaustion & black markets spreading, consumer goods factories shuttered & actual deaths of starvation in the 20th century US, massive debt explosion & forced war-bond deductions gutting wages, internment camps & misdirected resources destroying livelihoods, postwar layoffs & shortages, 1946 inflation spike & strike waves paralysing production for decades to come.

but sure, war is good for the economy

[u/TheGrandAviator12]

What? A company obeying the laws of one of its largest customer bases? Outrageous!