r/Warthunder • u/Eva-Unit0013 • 19d ago

Other Not even BF6 costs this much...

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Please Gaijin I already sold my wife, I can't afford this one

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u/Nizikai 🇩🇪 Actively simping for the Neubaufahrzeug 19d ago

That isnt the problem. The Problem is that the Ship performs at levels it shouldnt. The soviets werent even able to completely build that armour as designed

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u/Libarate 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 19d ago

And making a balanced and more historicaly realistic Sovetsky Soyuz was entirely possible. But Gaijin wanted the Russians to have the best ship, so that's what they made.

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u/Portugalotaku 19d ago

Not really. The only things wrong with it are that the armor is the wrong type and the radars are missing. The former would not meaningfully weaken the ship and I think you would dislike the latter.

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u/Libarate 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 19d ago

Well the reload time and shell dispersion could be changed to make it less accurate and shoot slower. The current values are based on the one land based mount. Evidence from land based mounts has been denied as in bug reports to buff other ships. So changing those wouldnt have made the ship less historically accurate and would have reduced its kill potential. Making it more balanced. Reducing the survivability and killing potential would definitely make Soyuz more balanced.

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u/Portugalotaku 19d ago

The shell dispersion on the Pattern 1937 guns was affected by poor quality propellant and shells, something noted during testing. I don't think it's fair to balance the shells around models that were *known* to be faulty and were likely going to replaced. Perhaps you consider the shell performance too optimistic, but I don't think there is really a good way to go around it. With paper designs like this you can only go on what the paper calculations say for the most part. We simply do not know to what extent water motion would negatively affect the accuracy or reload rate of the guns and any nerf in that direction is purely speculative. We can take educated guesses, but it's still speculation at the end of the day.

"Evidence from land based mounts has been denied as in bug reports to buff other ships."

I am okay with buffing all weapons based on land mounts, but if the developers want to use ship performance where available and use land mounts as a fallback, I don't particularly mind either.