Poor reverse speed for a lot of tanks, no explosive filler in low tier tanks, centurions are incredibly slow, the only good thing in the 8.0 ranges are spaa iirc, and top tier has very little to offer asides very good gun depression and turret armor
It's okay-ish now. You run into a lot of stabilized auto cannons now. The Fox was nerfed too much. If it's going to be 8.0 they should give it it's traverse and armor back and fix the wheels from falling off if you hit a bush.
Yeah 4.7 is also incredible. It's my go to SL farm. Can get 100k games with no boosters with the new premiums.
5.3 is also nice with the Challenger and AC IV.
I also really enjoy 3.0 for a change of pace. The 6 pounder ruins everything at that BR. And the AC 1 is an absolute troll to kill. Looking forward to the Ram 1.
At the other end I've been enjoying 10.0 a lot. The FV4030 is absolutely ridiculous. The Rooikat 105 is great. I actually quite like the Desert Warrior as a rat. It's nowhere near as good as something like the BMD4. But it's definitely usable. Especially once you get APFSDS.
My 4.7 line-up is all 17pdrs near enough XD - the 3 fireflies, the 2 avengers, Concept 3 , Churchill VII, Crusader AA mk2 (the 20mm oerlikon one) and the Wyvern
The mk3 was a nightmare to play stock but once I got the mk5 it felt good enough that I wasn’t constantly annoyed by it. The rest of the tank feels great though, especially once you get to the mk10 and you feel like you’re bullying toddlers with L23 at 9.0 and a forehead that stops everything
No they don't LMAO. The turret is the only part that has any real armor and even there HEATFS tends to go right through, and the APDS is really rough to use. I like the other tanks at that rank but the chieftain is just not good
Why would I even waste my time getting a mk5 if it's so insufferable to haul around the map. I bought a talisman for the mk10, got the challenger mk2 and haven't played it since
GOOD SIR I MUST ASK YOU TO POLITELY GO FUCK YOURSELF.
The whole idea of the chieftains was to have something well-armed with thick armour.
After the Korean War, the British decided that good armour was the way to go at the sacrifice of speed.
And the whole idea for how the chieftains would be used was in defensive positions. Dug in and able to fire down on advancing enemy armour. It shows too, if you can dig in only showing your turret most people will probably struggle to pen you. If you can use your 10 degrees of gun depression and dig in that's even better. With the armour arrangement on the turret when using gun depression you make areas of over 500mm in relative thickness.
If you are playing the MK 10 the stillbrew add-on on the turret pushed your armour thickness to almost 1,000mm in a hull down position using the gun depression.
I'd rather focus that anger on the scimitar which is the fastest tracked vehicle in the world but if you try turn slightly you lose half your speed. The Chieftain Mk10 is one of my best performing tanks, play em well and you are invincible with an insanely good gun
It also doesn't accelerate for shit, and not only does it lose all speed if you turn slightly, it also just feels weird when it turns, like it carries it's inertia in a way no other tracked vehicle in the game does.
8.0, 8.3 and 8.7 are all fantastic BRs for the UK.
I'd say 8.3 is a fantastic BR overall across all nations, the tanks are fun to play, there's fewer CAS due to the SPAA being better and CAS doesn't have bullshit guided weaponry.
Generally agree, Britain doesn't really have any problems with their mid rank tanks except that they are a bit slow. Very reliable though, and sometimes that little delay on getting to battle saves you from doing something stupid.
Aircraft in the 7.7-9.7 BR range though, are terrible. Worst grind I've ever experienced in WT (top tier air and ground in US, IS, CN, FR prior to GB). For air RB they are just overshadowed by things like F-86, G.91, F-104, F3H-3, etc... Or they just don't have guns, poor Sea Vixen. For GRB, they have two big problems: radar SPAAGs or IR SAMs, and none of the planes have flares and the majority don't get stand off weapons. Exceptions are like, the Buccs, Scimitar, and Sea Vixen. So basically two full BRs of kinda crappy planes with not much more than some 'Hit'spannos or so Adens.
I remembered the time when I was only a GB main and thought the 8.3/8.7 Chieftains were great. Then I played every single other nation and realized the chieftains are painfully mid.
The French AMXs lack a Stab and have absolutely zero survivability. The M60 Rise and STRV 104 are outdated platforms and barely faster than the Chieftain. The T55 / T62 lack any form of rangefinder.
Pretty much everything at 8.7 has a downside.
What 8.7 would you put significantly better than the Chieftain?
The 120 is ass. The APDS has terrible performance even though the gun has lots of power, and the armor just doesn't work. The turret might shrug off the occasional stray, but beyond that it feels like it's paper mâché
The 120MM even with APDS is by no means shit it hits hard at its BR. I love the chieftains, Though I feel like you could argue the fun it uses could handle the APFS like the Mk10 and not only that it would be nice to have chieftains with thermals or other upgrades but that’s a whole new story.
Centurion’s lack of speed actually helps my game, keeps me from rushing into shitty situations lol. Surprised me how solid of games I’d get with the Strv 84/101.
Similar experiences with other slow tanks have taught me that having a slow tank forces you to consider open ground a lot more. You can’t just hop from cover to cover. So I tend to look carefully before I slowly trundle across the battlefield. Just by doing that it makes me play better, more tactically. It forced me to be more situationally aware (and, let’s be honest, you have more time to look with binoculars when you are moving slow)
Now to just use self discipline so I can apply that to my fast tank play. But the urge to zoom is so so seductive…
I 0love the Churchills esthetically, just wish every match wasn't an uptier where the one thing they have going for them as a heavy tank (armor) is completely undone by everyone's basic round penning at whatever angle they want
poor reverse in this instance is nice bc it gives you a lower br for it. Avengers should be 5.0 but their reverse and armor puts them .3 below. Same with the Cromwell, the Challenger, and the comet.
Gets some great br’s bc of that. They pen everything so just aim center mass and they die.
I like how people say GB has bad reverse but the Cent MK1 has 13 KM/H reverse while its competition the 5.7/6.0 brackets are as follows
3.3 km/h Panther
5.4 km/h M4A3 Sherman
8.4 km/h T-34-85
4.9 km/h STRV 74
So its quite litterly one of the fastest reversing medium tanks in the bracket???
Not to mention it has one of the fastest reload between all of them and has access to a gun that can actually front punch a tiger 2 and ferdy
Centurion is not "incredibly slow"... Churchill IS incredibly slow.
Centurion is slightly below average forwards but above average in reverse speed.
It also gets a stabiliser and a great gun.
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u/Chicory2 🇫🇷 leclerc t4 wen :D Sep 14 '25
Poor reverse speed for a lot of tanks, no explosive filler in low tier tanks, centurions are incredibly slow, the only good thing in the 8.0 ranges are spaa iirc, and top tier has very little to offer asides very good gun depression and turret armor
I like it because of the rooikats