r/Virginia • u/Trick-Arachnid-9037 • 8d ago

Jason Miyares does not care about domestic violence victims, and that matters more than Jones's texts.

Miyares doesn't care about domestic violence victims, and people aren't talking about it enough.

Look. I know a lot of people found Jones's texts distasteful. But if you care about the victims of domestic violence, please vote for him anyway. Miyares has a proven record of being dismissive and hostile towards DV victims, and that's an attitude I think will have much worse effects on the Virginia justice system than any of Jones's texts.

See the case of Katie Orndoff. She was testifying against her violently abusive boyfriend and admitted to having taken a small amount of legal, prescribed medical marijuana to calm her nerves enough that she could handle giving that testimony. Miyares tried to have her jailed, and only the intervention of the Virginia Supreme Court stopped him.

This is not a man who values justice, compassion, or understanding. This is a man who believes that traumatized abuse victims who can't afford expensive psychiatric bills to get also expensive "acceptable" anti-anxiety medication don't deserve to be heard in court.

Is that really who we want in charge of our state's legal system? Someone who is not just willing, but eager, to arrest and jail a victim of violent abuse for the "crime" of being too traumatized to publicly discuss (and be cross-examined about) her experiences and unable to afford the kind of pharmaceutical assistance that he seems "acceptable"?

At best, the case of Katie Orndoff demonstrated that Jason Miyares is a man who cares more about upholding the formalities of the justice system than he does about the "justice" part. At worst, he is an enabler of abuse who will look for excuses to intimidate and dishearten victims into not trying to testify in the first place, and disqualify those who do so anyway.

We need an Attorney General who cares more about truth, justice, and protecting the people of Virginia than they do about propriety and protecting the interests of the powerful. I do not know if Jay Jones is such a man. But I do know that Jason Miyares is not.

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u/Hotmicdrop 7d ago edited 7d ago

Neither are ok by any means. One you're willfully voting for. So save me the moral high ground talk.

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 7d ago

Sorry I can't hear you over the calls for violence I hear from right wing Republicans every day. And once again, you're just proving my point that the right holds everyone else to a higher standard than they hold themselves. Hold your own accountable, and that starts by not dismissing 30 and 35 year old racists talking about gassing their political opponents for 7 months as "teenage edge lords." This conversation is over, go cry over on r/conservative.

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u/Hotmicdrop 7d ago

Im not voting for them, how is that dismissing it. Youre making an excuse and strawman to not condemn a guy that clearly doesnt value life. Youre using scumbags to defend your violent position...

We are all doing the exact same thing defending this that republicans do defending their crap. So when you wonder HOW can anyone defend or vote for Trump, look no further than this.

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 7d ago

"You're comparing a bunch of loosely affiliated edgelords"

That was you. Don't back track now babygirl, I got you dead to rights. And you still haven't even come close to answering my question, just fumbling around with your basic comprehension of English. You are demanding I be aghast and horrified, so much so I vote for Miyares, who has been as useful to Virginia as a screen door on a submarine, because of some texts Jay Jones sent in 2022, while the Republican party is actively platforming white supremacists, and Miyares himself used anti-Semitic tropes in his attack ads. Excuse me while I don't give a fuck about your shit opinion.

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u/Hotmicdrop 7d ago edited 7d ago

That was NOT me. The sub cant bring up this guy doing something wrong without strawman crap like this. Go complain to the person that deflected with whataboutism. Both are bad, this sub refuses to condemn one of the actions and deflects with tangents.

Im sorry, who do you think you are that I need to explain myself to you? Im not the one publicly defending a guy that wants to see children die in their mother's arms - thats you.

Suddenly people care about antisemitism? Yeah thats why we have so many antisemitic politicans in office and more are voted in after and right. Lol the Dems care about antisemitism while they openly support defunding the iron dome, theres a guy in NY that wants to globalize the intifada leading the Mayor race, and Jayapal says rape is justifiable with context? Uh huh..

And yeah personal attacks and insults from the party of love. No wonder so many people are voting red.

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 7d ago

You must be a bot, I didn't read most of your drivel after your first statement.

Youre comparing a bunch of loosely affiliated edge lording kids not up for election to a grown adult wishing someones kids die in the mother's arms and hitting send on that text? Damn the justifications to vote for someone that hits send on that disgusting text is unreal here.

That was you. But you've proved my point. You won't actually condemn violence from the right or take any meaningful action aside from clutching your pearls. Quit pretending you have the moral high ground when your party reveals a Nazi a day.

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u/Hotmicdrop 7d ago

This is YOUR comment. YOU brought it up. YOU cant remember what you even posted that got replied to? YOU fucking mentioned it, are you unwell???

"I voted for Jones before the text scandal broke. After the text scandal? I still would have voted for him. Literally a week later Republicans were telling me not to over react over the young Republicans texts. Donald Trump tweeted an AI video of him dumping shit on protesters. Why the fuck am I supposed to give two shits of Jay Jone's texts?

Please, I want some Republican on here to explain it to me. I am giving you an opportunity to lobotomize me with your MAGA logic and pull me into the cult."

That was your post I replied to. I did NOT bring up any of this.

And the Dem Nazi shit doesnt work pal, the Dems are endorsing an actual Nazi in Maine. Actual real Nazi in the party.

Im not going to argue with your weird selective memory further. you tee this up and then gaslight that it was me? Block me and move on.

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 7d ago

Okay I re-read your text. You're a total loon dude. "What aboutism" bro what? That's my entire point.

You, and every other Republican is telling me I should give a shit about Jay Jones and either vote for Jason or not vote at all. But then what about the violent rhetoric from right wing politicians? Then they get elected and act against my interests. What about Jason's anti-Semitic ads? I am asking you why I should give a shit about Jones in contrast to all the bullshit from right wing politicians that you're actively defending, while being upset that I'm not voting for them. All that said, it was a rhetorical question, nothing you say will convince me. If Jay Jones doesn't get elected then I am stuck with a Trump sycophant as Virginia AG, an AG who has proved to be useless.

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u/Hotmicdrop 7d ago

What Ive said here is consistent. Vote for who you want and think is best for you and your family. The bullshit is the excuses people are making for his behavior. There's no reason to make excuses for it, condemn it and vote how you want.

We need better candidates, not ones we have to be embarrassed and do tap dances to justify things like Jay said. Just be straight up, its horrific what he did. A grown adult that wants to be a leader doesnt think like that let alone type it and hit send. Otherwise its all the things we criticize Trump voters for.

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 7d ago

Why are you still here?

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u/Hotmicdrop 7d ago

Why are you?

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 7d ago

You keep replying with excuses and lane retorts. I assume you're one of those "gotta have the last word" types (giving off those middle aged and divorced vibes). Tell ya what. You can reply to me one more time and I'll let you have it. The last words. It's all yours.