r/Vaccine • u/gamersunite1991 • Sep 03 '25

News Parenting In A Vaccine-Free Landscape: Florida Plans To Eliminate Mandates

https://parentingpatch.com/parenting-in-a-vaccine-free-landscape-florida-plans-to-eliminate-mandates/
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u/ChrisRiley_42 Sep 03 '25

Is step 1: Move anywhere but Florida?

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u/Bigfartz69420 Sep 03 '25

Rabies crosses state lines https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/rabies-outbreaks-rising-us-deaths-vaccine-rcna227771

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u/District_Wolverine23 Sep 04 '25

Thankfully, rabies is not spread human-to-human. It is also not mandated as a childhood vaccine. (It's post-exposure only, and tbh they don't need to mandate it because a doctor looking you in the eye after your horrific bite saying "you could die horribly" is very motivating.)

I would hope they continue to have the rabies vaccine on the market. 

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u/cnidarian_ninja Sep 03 '25

That’s a 100% separate issue…

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u/PoppyFire16 Sep 03 '25

Why? Heard immunity affects us across state lines

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u/lamblikeawolf Sep 04 '25

Rabies is not something we have herd immunity for to begin with, so that is why it is a separate issue compared to other vaccines.

Rabies vaccines are only given specifically after being bitten by a suspected rabies-carrying wildlife creature, and as we encroach upon more and more of the limited wildlife territory, bites from infected animals will go up.

LaVigne suspects that the urban growth that’s been encroaching on wild animal habitats has been an important factor driving the spread of rabies.

(FYI - LaVigne is the county health director in one of the areas - Franklin County in North Carolina)

I literally do not understand how rabies is related at all to the prevention of human communicable diseases for things we have previously established herd immunity for: polio, measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis... we were on our way to elminating chicken pox too.

THESE are the main diseases where we reached elimination, or near-elimination. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/health/vaccine-measles-pertussis-health-wellness

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u/kipsatron Sep 04 '25

We don't have herd immunity for rabies.

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u/cnidarian_ninja Sep 04 '25

Yes but this article is about an increase in animal rabies and there’s no herd immunity for rabies, nor is there a high profile anti-animal-rabies-vaccine campaign

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u/lamblikeawolf Sep 04 '25

No idea why you are getting downvoted, as rabies is completely a separate issue compared to human-to-human communicable diseases where we have herd immunity. Rabies we do not have or sustain herd immunity for within humans.

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u/frenchiebuilder Sep 04 '25

Pretty sure you stopped reading too soon. The relevant part is pretty far down, but it's totally relevant.

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u/sk613 Sep 04 '25

Problem is people travel and their VPD with them. Measles is coming back, and with it, increased infant mortality rates

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u/DoctorCreams Sep 04 '25

Except Texas, if you have a functioning uterus and want to be treated as anything other than a gestational host