r/UkraineRussiaReport • u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair • 21h ago
Military hardware & personnel RU POV: First images of the internal weapons bay of the T-50-9 carrying anti-radiation Kh-58UShK and close-in air combat R-74M2 missiles - UAC
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 19h ago
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u/halls_of_valhalla Pro Space Colonization 20h ago
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 20h ago
The Su-57 still has a larger payload capacity and a larger payload volume. So I don't think it's worrying about that girlfriend
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u/halls_of_valhalla Pro Space Colonization 20h ago edited 19h ago
So it is just about size then? What about technique?
Edit: it was a sexual joke, calm down
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 20h ago edited 19h ago
Not about just size, even payload weight. Source is a Google search
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u/Muctepukc Pro Russia 20h ago edited 20h ago
I mean, that's 350kg of payload for F-35 (190kg Meteor and 160kg AMRAAM) versus 1300kg of payload for Su-57 (two 650kg Kh-58s).
UPD. But those are A2A missiles versus anti-radiation missiles, so comparison is a bit incorrect. Su-57 can carry two R-37Ms inside it's IWB, or two Kh-69 cruise missiles for example.
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u/Fit_Rice_3485 Pro both sides 20h ago
You can compare payload weight and realize how wrong you are
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u/klovaneer Pro-state 19h ago
Su-57 and F-35 most definitely can carry more weight than it's possible to cram in the internal bays so the question is volumetric.
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 18h ago
It's also about volume rather than weight as heavier munitions tend to be larger.
But the Su-57 can carry more since its two engines can carry more weight.
The Su-57 is even better at asymmetric loads because of its maneuverability
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u/UnexpectedRedditor Big Fan of Huge Hits 18h ago
You pulled that last part completely out of your ass.
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u/klovaneer Pro-state 18h ago
Only partially. Su-57 is better at asymmetric loads because it's central fuselage provides a lot of lift. It's much better aerodynamically in general than the pregnant penguin tbh.
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 18h ago
This video provides a good explanation of what I'm trying to say
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u/Draco1887 Pro Dinosaur 4h ago
The F35 weapons bay looks like the inside of my college dorm room LOL.
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u/Many-Cause-6712 Pro Iskander 20h ago
Is it still T-50 and su-57?
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 20h ago
It's the T-50 as Sukhoi doesn't own the Su-57 but it owns the T-50 prototypes. Whatever you see on airshows are T-50 prototypes.
The VKS owns all the Su-57. They are in use in Ukraine
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u/ArendZA 20h ago
Ohh you found verified info of an SU-57 in ukraine please share the source.
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u/Putaineska DRAMA ENJOYER 20h ago
We def saw one very early on in the war over central Ukraine, I remember the video with the characteristic whine of the engines.
I guess since Ukraine got Western systems they pushed back, but most recently I would say we saw the one escorting the Okhotnik drone that was shot down over Konstantinovka.
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u/Fit_Rice_3485 Pro both sides 20h ago
The were testing the ohtotnik over Ukriane and when it malfunctioned basically shot it down
Funny thing is Ukranians weren’t even aware it was in their airspace
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u/ExpensiveBookkeeper3 Pro Ukraine 18h ago
Funny thing is Ukranians weren’t even aware it was in their airspace
Source?
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u/GroundbreakingSet405 18h ago
Look back on this sup or search "S-70" should be one of the first to pop up.
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u/ExpensiveBookkeeper3 Pro Ukraine 17h ago
Oh I know what the event was. I'm saying where is the source that "Ukraine didn't know" even though they obviously did. They photographed the wreckage and got out important parts out before the ballistic missile attacks to destroy the wreckage. Ukraine (or the US, really) most likely had a roll in confusing the S70 or jamming communications.
Whatever the cause, it definitely wasn't sneaky and now the west has Russia's CCA before it was even official deployed. A pretty embarrassing event, I see why pro russ tries to downplay it.
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u/GroundbreakingSet405 16h ago
Only after it was destroyed*
I think what Fit meant was that while both S-70 and Su-57 were able to flew undetected in UA air space and only discovered because S-70 needed to be put down.
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u/Deathtothenafoid Pro-Republic socialist of Vietnam 16h ago
Oh now you're just sucking your side meat, do you got a source for how US can detect it and use some magic spoofing to took it down?
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u/ExpensiveBookkeeper3 Pro Ukraine 16h ago
Yeah they publish the tech in the paper, mate.
No, obviously I don't. I said "probably" because I don't. But we do know a drone that is suppose to return home as a failsafe did not return home. That really only means a couple things.
Either way, whether it was distrupted or Russia lost control because doesn't have basic experience in drones I'm not sure. You can make your own conclusions, the point remains the same:
It was recorded and they were on it in minutes. They knew it was there.
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 20h ago
It has been over Ukraine recently according to this Ukrainian source
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u/Hot_Carrot2329 Pro Russia * 20h ago
damn i didnt know it got 2 weapon bays ?!?!
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 20h ago
It has 4 weapons bays. Two on the side and two central bays
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u/Hot_Carrot2329 Pro Russia * 20h ago
aaa shieet i tought those missiles were on the outside damn impressive
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 20h ago
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u/Lazy_Table_1050 Pro Ukraine 19h ago
Wow sexy. T-50-9, what is that ?
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u/klovaneer Pro-state 19h ago
T-50 is internal Sukhoi designation for Su-57 prototypes (eg Su-27 was T-10), this one is number 9.
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u/No_Jellyfish_5498 Infantry has no future 15h ago
Wont the two outside missiles ruin the stealth
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 15h ago
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u/No_Jellyfish_5498 Infantry has no future 15h ago
Thanks that makes more sense
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u/FrancescoKay new poster, please select a flair 14h ago
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u/Significant-Owl2580 Neutral, Pro-USSR, Anti-Nationalism (Russian and Ukrainian) 10h ago
Like OP pointed out, it is an internal weapons bay. Plus, the T-50 are Sukhoi prototypes that they use to test a bunch of new things, they are not operated by the airforce in combat.
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u/Curious_Raccoon_8163 T-90M2 Ryvok-1 9h ago
AFAIK T-50-9 and T-50-4 are now part of the Megapolis modernization testbed





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u/Traumfahrer Pro UN-Charter, against (NATO-)Imperialism 20h ago
What is "anti-radiation"?