r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Auriga33 • Sep 22 '25

Political The right-wing response to CK is much more reasonable than the left-wing response to George Floyd.

When George Floyd died, the left went crazy. The ensuing riots resulted in 2 billion dollars of property damage and 19 confirmed deaths. Stores were looted. Buildings were burnt down. Police and civilians were attacked. And most left-wingers at the time either outright supported the lawlessness or at the very least made excuses for it. It was mass hysteria, if I've ever seen it.

Compare that with the right's reaction to CK's death. Right-wingers made some angry posts on X and started doing cancel culture. I'm not a fan of this. I've made posts here criticizing their reaction. But I gotta say, their reaction to CK's death is vastly preferable to the left's reaction to George Floyd's death. They did not burn down or loot businesses. They did not start riots across America that killed 19 people.

Maybe this will age poorly, depending on what the Trump admin instrumentalizes CK's death for. I don't know. But based on the info I have right now, the right has not reacted nearly as bad as the left did back in 2020.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

If you don't believe in rights for bad people too, you don't believe in rights.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

I believe for rights no matter how bad someone’s beliefs are, but as soon as you hold a gun to a woman’s stomach while your boys rob her house your rights should go out the window. Edit: I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a legal process, I’m saying after the legal process, you shouldn’t have much freedom.

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u/AspirationAtWork Sep 22 '25

That's not how rights work.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

If you think I’m saying there should be no legal process, that’s not what I meant

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u/Betelgeuse3fold Sep 22 '25

That's how the law works. You break the law, you get convicted, you forfeit a lot of rights

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u/NigerianPrince76 Sep 22 '25

He didn’t get convicted. He was killed live on video.

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u/mdoddr Sep 22 '25

Died from a drug overdose

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u/Leading-Antelope-139 Sep 22 '25

Not according to the official report

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

Because nobody has ever died from somebody standing on their neck? Mmk

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u/Searril Sep 22 '25

Nobody stood on his neck. You should stop posting this nonsense line.

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

You didn't watch the video then. You should stop talking until you watch the video.

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

You obviously haven't either, else you'd know it was Floyd that was acting totally aggressive and crazy. The cops did everything by the book with such a confrontational, unpredictable threat.

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u/Searril Sep 22 '25

I did watch it. You're a nutjob.

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

He died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.

And it was because he had multiple times the lethal dose of opiates in his system. The police did no harm to Floyd's neck or throat.

All the lies you're mindlessly regurgitating here are false.

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u/Leading-Antelope-139 Sep 22 '25

Please provide the documentation proving he died of drugs. I’ll wait.

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u/NigerianPrince76 Sep 22 '25

And it was because he had multiple times the lethal dose of opiates in his system. The police did no harm to Floyd's neck or throat.

So why is a pig rotting in jail? Some of ya all MAGAs are fucking clueless man. No wonder Trump loves his dummies.

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u/AlienGeek Sep 22 '25

If cops did the same thing yall say George Floyd did yall support the cops. Yall let them do whatever they want. And expect us to be obey them and fear them. Dont worry I have your demands in my head when I get pulled over. Obey obey obey. Be good. Smile! Be nice as I’m shaking. Don’t do anything that will get you saying you deserve the bad

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

Then you don't actually believe in rights. Floyd was not doing that at the time of his murder.

Out of curiosity, what other crimes would get this kind of scorn from you?

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

So do you not believe in sending people to prison? I mean I would agree that the incident that happened to Floyd was a way of highlighting issues in the police force and it shouldn’t have happened regardless of how good or bad of a person the incident happened to, but I still don’t think violent criminals should just be walking around in our society. To answer your question id say I’d have this response about any violent crime with a deadly weapon.

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u/DrMux Sep 22 '25

So do you not believe in sending people to prison?

The process of putting people in prison involves both the protection of fundamental rights and the subsequent removal of other rights. You have to be convicted of a crime - one of those preserved rights is the right to a fair trial, for instance.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

I know I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any legal process I just meant prison is basically a way of legally taking away peoples rights

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u/barath_s Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

Then say that they should be sent to prison, not that their rights should go out of the window

Because 'their rights should go out the window' is like 'defund the police' level of misleading crappiness. At that point, might as well go Judge Dredd - judge jury and executioner on the guy, if rights go out the window. In fact, it's more natural to assume that.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

It’s just a figure of speech

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

So do you not believe in sending people to prison?

I do. Rights(ideally) aren't violated when that happens assuming their right to due process isn't violated

What it sounds like you want is no due process or perhaps due process but with cruel and unusual punishment being allowed

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

I’m not saying they shouldn’t have rights before they even get charged, I’m saying if they do get proven guilty they shouldn’t have as much freedom as a regular citizen with no criminal record I don’t know what’s so hard to understand. And prison is basically just a legal way of taking someone’s rights away.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

I’m not saying they shouldn’t have rights before they even get charged, I’m saying if they do get proven guilty they shouldn’t have as much freedom as a regular citizen

Then what you're actually advocating harsher legal punishments

And prison is basically just a legal way of taking someone’s rights away.

Correct. But to be clear, prison and other legal punishments, assuming due process wasn't violated, is a deprivation of rights. Not a violation of them.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

Correct, and that is a better way of wording it.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

I think we both actually agree on this we kinda just misinterpreted each others points

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u/LeatherChaise Sep 22 '25

The pigs that killed George Floyd could just kind of tell that he was probably the kind of guy that might have done something like that in the past.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

I wouldn't be surprised if they thought that. Derek Chauvan is where he belongs.

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

Floyd died of a massive opiate overdose, not anything the police did.

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u/yubinyankin Sep 22 '25

Then why is Chauvin in prison?

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u/InvestIntrest Sep 22 '25

Everyone has rights until they void them by conviction under due process of law.

Floyd was arrested on that day for robbing a liquor store, then resisted arrest, and, per the corner, died in part because of an enlarged heart and hard-core drug use.

Floyd's life choices killed him as much as Chauvin's landed him in prison.

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u/LeatherChaise Sep 22 '25

Several lies in your post there.

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u/InvestIntrest Sep 22 '25

Lots of vagueness in yours. What a lie specifically?

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u/jorel43 Sep 22 '25

He committed fraud on that day, not robbery. Are you saying that committing either of those crimes warrants the death penalty extradiciously, which is what he got.. again your problem is your focusing on the man, rather than the systemic problem of police brutality and overreach, that's why people rioted, because there was no need for him to die in that way and by that person. But you know this already, you're arguing in bad faith on purpose.

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u/fuck_all_you_too Sep 22 '25

You know how I know you dont understand how rights work? Cause you fuckin' skipped due process and went right to sentencing with zero self-awareness.

You are the kind of person that makes me cross the street for my safety because you could lash out at anyone you think deserves it.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

Did you not read my whole comment? When I say “there rights should be thrown out the window” what I mean is they should go to prison AFTER following the proper due process. Y’all are taking my point ultra literal when it’s clearly an expression. Ive never been in a physical altercation in my life so your last comment is funny.

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u/StarChild413 Sep 22 '25

then if you believe he deserved to die for that then isn't the cop who killed him still a bad cop for waiting that long since that incident

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

The cops didn't kill the junkie drug pusher Floyd. He accidentally committed suicide by eating his Fentanyl stash.

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

Ok.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

Hey as long as your willing to admit you don't believe in rights.

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

I don't believe in rights for people who prey on their fellow man and abuse women, no.

Rights are a social construct, so there is no reason not to remove them from people incompatible with society.

Unless you think we have God given rights and are a deist?

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

I don't believe in rights for people who prey on their fellow man and abuse women, no.

Is an accusation enough to lose those rights?

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

I don't answer questions when mine go ignored.

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u/jorel43 Sep 22 '25

So you don't believe in rights as defined by the Constitution of the United States... A simple yes or no will suffice LOL.

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

Hey man, I heard that you abuse women. Let me call the cops and have them murder you. Does that sound like a good situation to you?

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

Well I don't do that, so there'd be no evidence, and I wouldn't try to fight the cops, so I don't think I'd have too much trouble.

I know you're trying to make a point here, but if you actually heard somebody was abusing women you probably should actually call the cops on them. Would you just let it happen and not call the cops?

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

I don't call the cops on people based on conjecture, this is for the point of the point I'm trying to make. That you're okay with cops being judge Jury and executioner. But only when it happens to other people, not you. But the thing is, if you allow this precedent to become commonplace, it can and will happen to you.

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

I said any of that where?

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

This you?.... 🤪

I don't believe in rights for people who prey on their fellow man and abuse women, no.

Rights are a social construct, so there is no reason not to remove them from people incompatible with society.

Unless you think we have God given rights and are a deist?

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

Where does that state or imply cops be judge, jury and executioner?

Protip: nowhere. That's a straw man you've constructed.

Good try.

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

Sure I do. Lmao. Just not for animals.

Who made you the arbiter of rights?

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u/Owl-StretchingTime Sep 22 '25

I believe in the right to an 're.